Free online Master in Applied AI - Lulea University of Technology - Sweden

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If you're NOT an EU citizen, it's pretty darn expensive: Per the site: 280,000 SEK for the degree - which is $27, 436.
     
  2. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    There are a LOT of universities out there with similar pricing structures in the EU. Free or only a few hundred euros for citizens, possibly tens of thousands for everyone else. Of course, for Americans, the full cost may still be cheaper than their local degrees. $30k isn't a great price, but it's not that bad. Especially for a degree like this.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I know. Just pointed out this one, so people didn't get undue expectations. Sweden has a great education system - something that some American employers - those who think of Sweden in terms of Volvos and lingonberries - might not be fully aware of.

    It's one of those really good degrees that still might be a hard sell, in some places here. Employers often don't know what WE know.
     
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  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    So someone who is aware of Volvo brand would dismiss a Swedish degree in an engineering-adjacent discipline? I find it illogical, though I'm sure there are some who would think that way.

    Were it free (or if I could find a Romanian-ish ancestor to claim EU citizenship), I might have been interested. I do need the motivation to fill in the gaps in this exact field, even if I don't strictly need the credential.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Maybe I should have said "Akvavit and lingonberries," or "meatballs and lingonberries," instead. "Ikea and lingonberries" might also have been considered engineering-adjacent. I didn't put several hours of thought into all the possible interpretations, as, unlike you, I don't have a PhD. But I think you know what I meant.

    Last time I was "smug." This time, I'm "illogical." Have your fun, Dr. Stanislav. :( Sticks and stones may break my bones - but whips and chains excite me! :p
     
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  6. tadj

    tadj Active Member

    I am a dual Polish-Canadian citizen with an EU member state citizenship, but I wouldn’t romanticize Swedish degrees and the online degree opportunities given to EU residents. The simple reason is that many of these online degrees aren’t very flexible. In Sweden, a 100% pace of study on an online Master’s degree means that you would need to devote 40 hours/week to your online study. Many scheduled online meetings take place during daytime hours when people are working. Effectively, the degrees work for the unemployed or very young students with no work responsibilities. The professors will frequently discourage students form having any other jobs, as they may interfere with the demanding online program schedule. People can sometimes enjoy a so-called 50 % study rate (often times scheduled with daytime online meetings as well!), which requires about 20 hours/week. However, this extends the degree length by one year and this option isn’t even available on many Swedish online degrees. For example, I was looking at the following “free for EU citizens” Master's program; https://www.du.se/en/study-at-du/programmes-courses-and-course-packages/programmes/masters-programme-in-social-sciences/. However, the 100% study rate would make it impossible to work, so it might be an option if you ‘re planning one-year unemployment!
     
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  7. Messdiener

    Messdiener Active Member

    For those of us who have been contemplating a Swedish degree or have bookmarked a few of their degree programs over the years, this insight is invaluable.

    Thank you for sharing this, @tadj!
     
  8. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Good perspective, thanks. Study schedule so inflexible that it makes impossible to work, to me, defeats the purpose of online education - or even adult education in general. Back in Toronto, I was interested in a "College Faculty Post-Grad Diploma" program taught at, I believe, George Brown College (a fine Toronto community colleges). This program had in-person meetings during regular working hours; the admins suggested I should quit my job to join the program, so they can later help me get a part-time teaching gig. Maybe. For a program ostensibly designed to help new Canadians (and funded by the government for this purpose), it's remarkably ill-conceived.
    Having said that, the program you linked lists 8 compulsory online meetings a semester. I would think that some (not all) potential students can make it work.
     
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