Trump 2024

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    When joined the Air Force, I took an oath of enlistment. (It, and every oath afterwards, was accompanied by a written version I signed.) When I went on active duty, I did it again. And when I was appointed a noncommissioned officer. When I went to officer training school, I again did the oath. Upon graduation, I did the oath of commissioning. I repeated that oath when selected to become a regular officer and again when I was promoted to captain, moving me to indefinite status. As a retired officer, that oath applies to me this day.

    Additionally, I administered the oath of enlistment to hundreds of enlisted members and the oath of commissioning to dozens of officers.

    This oath matters to me.

    A central tenet of the oath is to support and defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. While I've felt Trump has been a traitor to the United States since his inauguration, and committed many crimes as president, I never felt he was an enemy to the Constitution itself. Until now.

    His latest attack on America lacks any ambiguity, any nuance, and defies rationalization by his supporters. The US Constitution is our grand bargain, the rules and guidelines we agree to live by. Open to amendment, open to interpretation, open to outright argument, sure. And we have means for settling such disputes. But a call for the Constitution to be ignored as he did here cannot be interpreted in any other way:

    A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump wrote. (Emphasis added.)

    Supporting him is supporting an enemy of our Constitution.
     
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  2. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Biden made public statements that he knew his executive orders were blatantly unconstitutional, yet he did them anyway.

    Multiple times Biden has had his executive orders overturned in the Supreme Court

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/restoring-america/fairness-justice/bidens-legal-losses-seven-times-courts-have-struck-against-administration

    The speaker of the house said Joe Biden didn't have the power to cancel student loan debt and did some scheme anyway in order to get votes knowing it would be overturned after the election. The Supreme Court is expected to rule against the student loan scheme.

    Biden is a liar, and he's proven that he is a danger to democracy.

    So if you support Biden, then you don't support our constitution.
     
  3. Charles Fout

    Charles Fout Active Member

    Look at yourselves. You have become a mob again. See Ann Coulter’s "Demonic." I began this thread just to state – I support President Trump’s election bid for 2024. Now, I love a good conversation and I definitely expect some good natured “my guy is better than your guy” banter but to see the effort you expend on denigrating not only President Trump, but yours truly is surprising.

    Yet there is hope. Twenty years ago, in a purely altruistic endeavor, I cured Dr. Dr. Douglas of his George Bush Derangement Syndrome for a very brief period.

     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    My statement demonstrates quite the opposite.
    There is a huge difference between arguing over the law and stating that the Constitution should be set aside.
     
  5. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Social Media has more credibility than the CNN's and mass media of this world who by the way don't have the followers that they claim they have.

    The bots that make it look like people are still listening to them. They're not.

    Nobody is listening to mass media anymore. They completely shot themselves in the foot with the COVID narrative because now we know that they are unreliable.
    https://twitter.com/i/spaces/1OwxWwDyXnQxQ?s=20
     
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  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    All Manic Craniac did was to very politely point out that I didn't say what you falsely accused me of saying.
     
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  7. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Well, that's enough of that.
     
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