Schools putting litter boxes in schools for students that identify as furry

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  1. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Right biased media is actually claiming that the "woke Democrats" have forced some schools to put cat litter boxes in restrooms to accommodate kids that identify as furry. Which I guess means cats? Some actually believe this nonsense. Some 20 elected Republican officials have indicated that they actually believed this nonsense! I heard this on CNN and couldn't believe it. So I did a Google search and found a Reuters article that says it's true! CNN is only mixed accuracy for their talk shows. While Reuters is Very High accuracy. (according to MediaBiasFactCheck.com)

    I guess this is some kind of weird attack against transgender folks?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-furries-rogan-litterbox/fact-check-no-evidence-of-schools-accommodating-furries-with-litter-boxes-idUSL1N31J1KT
     
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  2. MaceWindu

    MaceWindu Active Member

    Heard about this too awhile back. The truth is really sad to me.

    The cat liter is in some classroom closets in case of an active shooter situation and the school is in locked down mode. Children are then stuck in the classroom. If a child has to use the restroom, they cannot leave the classroom, so the teacher removes the emergency pet litter or pet littered filled box for children to go in the classroom.

    What’s a furry?
    “The term furry describes a diverse community of fans, artists, writers, gamers, and role players. Most furries create for themselves an anthropomorphized animal character (fursona) with whom they identify and can function as an avatar within the community. Some furries wear elaborate costumes (called fursuits) or paraphernalia such as animal ears or tails, or represent themselves as anthropomorphic animals in online communities such as Second Life.”
    https://furscience.com/whats-a-furry/
     
  3. SweetSecret

    SweetSecret Well-Known Member

    Cat-less cat lady here to chime in... wondering what this world is coming to.
     
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  4. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Most white women Democrats and 1/3 of male Democrats suffer from mental illness.

    And things are getting worse, not better.
     
  5. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Ehn. This wasn't even unbelievable at all when it was said. It was totally believable given where things have gone, and it wasn't even as crazy as other things that have actually been true.

    Both sides are too deeply into the business of calling the other side wacky to take a moment to self-reflect on just how wacky they themselves have become. Taken as a whole, I can no longer recognize the politics and positions of either side. There used to be a time when they made sense to me even if didn't agree with them, but not anymore. Every day, from either side, something is done or said that defies logic, common sense, science, you name it, and it's immediately spun/damaged controlled/reinforced by its supporters and party-leaning media outlets. It's become like a battle between two 90's radio shock jocks to see who can come up with the wildest stunt and get the most listeners. Entertaining, sure, but not encouraging in the least bit.
     
  6. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    Furries are real. Here is what looks to be a Democrat citizen fighting for furry rights at a city council meeting.



    All furry deniers are bigots.
     
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Please tell me that you're just trying to sound ridiculous to make some sort of point or something.
     
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  8. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That does sound damning. But my first question is how closely correlated having ever been diagnosed with mental illness is with having mental illness. Doubly so in that the question includes the word "ever", and older generations, which have had longer to have these sorts of problems, answer "no" more often.

    Put simply, do conservatives really tend to enjoy better mental health, or do they just tend not seek help from mental health professionals when they should?
     
  10. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    Just looking at this on the surface there are potentially many other underlying factors. Some that come to mind are a potential correlation between political ideologies and views on seeking mental health treatment or socioeconomic status and seeking mental health treatment. Not being diagnosed with a mental health issue doesn't mean it doesn't exist. People noticing a mental health issue, having the resources to seek treatment, and having a positive view of taking care of those kind of concerns is usually going to result in a diagnosis of some sort.

    I agree with one aspect of the article. We live in a time where many people are taking on the weight of the world, to champion for others, when they can't even provide or take care of themselves. This is exhausting, unhealthy, and unsustainable.
     
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  11. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    This is at the core of our political divisiveness. At some point in the past each "side" held their members accountable, at least for the big stuff. Then they learned when they hold their own members accountable they are going to lose the election and they began to worry about what if the other side doesn't hold their members accountable. Then the other side realizes that they now have to make a big deal about everything because no one is holding their own members accountable and it keeps escalating from there appearing ever more partisan. There have been so many appalling and egregious things that have occurred with elected officials that their own party glossed over without accountability that we have eroded our trust and demonstrates they care more about the election than the accountability. I am not sure how to get to the "reset."
     
  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    "I can totes believe this lie an opposite side spreads about a party" is not a good argument for "this party is crazy". Or even "they are both crazy". At most, it is damning for the liars that spread it.
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    What you say is true. But how did we get here? I think a big cause of the political divisiveness is caused by everyone being in their own "echo chamber". What I mean is that back when we only had 3 TV channels, everyone heard the same news. Now we have many choices. A person can find a station that only panders to their own already held beliefs.
     
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  14. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    I think it is definitely a contributing factor. Very little news is actually news as many of us counted on it to be, they are opinion pieces designed to increase ratings and revenue. One of the core problems is there seems to have been a shift from the goal of providing reliable/un-opinionated news to the goal of increasing viewership and revenue. As you point out, humans, regardless of political affiliation, seem to naturally gravitate to the news that they agree with due to confirmation bias so they actually increase viewership in the current format and would likely suffer viewership losses based on the historic standards for news. Very few people like being told they're wrong and only those that explicitly have the self awareness are actively looking to challenge their beliefs. I make my "rounds" of many different "flavors" of news but even then it feels really "good" when some news story tells me what I wanted to hear... it is a dangerous trap fueled by our own chemical reactions.
     
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  15. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    You know what, you are right. Moreover, commercial media shies away from providing reliable information on substance, instead covering "balanced" opinion and covering everything as if it's a sports match. So instead saying "the sky is blue", they would say "while the majority of experts believe that the sky is blue, other say it is in fact yellow. In a poll, 37% of the population believed that the sky is yellow, while further 13% were not sure. Tune in tomorrow for the developing controversy". Ugh.
     
  16. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    That seems to be trying to change the subject. There wasn't any assertion that furries weren't real. The assertion was that it is shocking that some folks actually believed the lie that some schools were putting cat litter boxes in school bathrooms.

    BTW, I'll guess that the video you posted is most likely BS nonsense put on by a Republican. For example, any evidence that it even occurred in a city council meeting rather than a completely empty room?
     
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  17. JBjunior

    JBjunior Active Member

    A quick search for the video shows it is a guy who does things like this, potentially to take what he considers liberal talking points, to the extreme for entertainment or political value. To your point, these aren't the genuine views that this man holds (at least not openly) and he is expressing them as a mockery.
     
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  18. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    LevelUP stated,
    It is now clear that that was a false statement. The sad part of this is that it might have been a bit amusing if only LevelUP had introduced the video truthfully.
     
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  19. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Exactly!
     
  20. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    So I guess it's a good thing I never actually said that? You do that often. You put words in people's mouths that they never actually said, then make arguments based on that.

    The other thing with your reply is that you're saying the part in bold after the fact of it being known as not being true. I'm talking about what I thought of it before it was known to not be true. I think I was pretty clear on that.

    It is, but it's unfortunately still damning for both. The litter box thing was believable to many people before the fact was known because of how absolutely far off the rails people who are pretty much entirely Democrats have gone with pseudoscientific identity/gender positions and politics (people identifying as various animals, green orbs, and any number of other things they clearly are not, which is nothing more than a sign of a wild imagination at best, mental illness at worst) and how people in that fold weaponize their positions against anyone who opposes them, just like it was believable before the fact was known about QAnon because of just how far off the deep end people who are pretty much entirely Republicans had gone in their worship of Trump and identifying with MAGA (people worshipping Trump like he is a deity, and running around making crazy cryptic messages based on what they got from QAnon to the point that it had taken over their identity, and then of course January 6th)--that millions of Republicans were and still are moving to the tune of, weaponizing their beliefs against anyone who opposes it.

    Those things happened and are happening, and much more can be referenced just as easily as the things I've mentioned. But as this is not my first rodeo, I do understand that if one champions a side, they're not going to ever see their side as having any real problems. That's just the way it is, it's never going to change and I've accepted that.

    That's all I have to say on it in this thread.
     
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