Is 1 year too early to ask for a pay raise?

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  1. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Not sure if you're male or female but this video applies to anyone of any gender:


    Notice how she mentions absolutely NOTHING about what degree or education you have.
     
  2. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Thinking about asking a 600 euro brute raise in March.
    It's so important to discuss salary matters with co-workers to have transparency about the policy in the company. My co-worker says she received a raise every year without asking.
    We have a different manager though so out of safety reasons, I will propose a 600 euro raise myself at the 1 year mark.
    Finges crossed.
     
  3. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    So let’s hear your elevator pitch! Why 600 extra a month? What’s their value proposition? Are you cutting yourself short with that request?
     
  4. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member


    Great! ;-)
    Here it comes:

    "I've been working here for a year now and while I love the variety in my job, the fact that I do my job with so much passion and dedication also leads to the fact that my negotiations always result in at least 30 percent off the price the sponsor was happy to pay as the already lowest price. My negotiated total amounts are always 50% under the total maximum available budget parameters, leading to unseen savings for our stakeholders. I do not have a 9-5 mentality, as I'm sure you've noticed. To deliver this world-class service to our sponsors I'm often working 3 hours more a day than I actually should. The competitive advantage is there when you take into account that the average employee works 8 hours while I'm working 11 hours and that this usually results in an output equal to 16 hours. Two whole workdays in one workday. I'm sure you understand that at the rate I'm currently at this is a serious loss on my side and a serious win on your side. I believe that negotiations have to result in a fruitful agreement that both parties can find themselves in. Therefor, I would like to propose a revision of my salary with a 600 euro increase brute per month. You also have to take into account that most of those 600 euros will be taxed away. My net increase on my monthly salary will be 250 euro for these 600 euros paid by you. As a professional negotiator, I wouldn't be truthful to my job if I didn't negotiate my salary in a way that both of us prosper from it. It's my goal to find an agreement both parties can find themselves in. I'm sure you understand that to this endeavor, that also means negotiating my own salary, to maintain the integrity of my professional activities. Please let me know your thoughts. Looking forward to an agreement we both can find ourselves in! "
     
  5. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Managers are people :), some will value what you do others will want you to continue doing what you are doing and always expect more. I had jobs when recognition for hard work came fast and salary raises with it.
    And I had jobs where years passed and no mater what I did I was not getting recognized for the effort. I increased the focus on the family and well being of the marriage and the kids.
    While I liked the stability I invested in upgrading my skills becoming more in demand, taking advantage of all the training be it in leadership or more soft and work skills related.
    When tried to look in to other roles within the company and nothing was happening, I found a position with a different employer I had time to look for the right opportunity.
    I realized that previous job was a great stepping stone for the new job that had no travel, better money and flexibility - family friendly and awesome team and type of work. (no perfect job out there but this came close).
    My average today is at about 5 years per employer, some of my colleagues have 2 years, my longest time with an employer so far is 9 years and one guy I work with is with my current employer since he completed his military service, so he is 33 yeas here, in different positions over the time.
    Make a plan to increase your value with education and training, look at it as job security, one of the aspects of job security is if one looses their job how fast they can get a good new job.
    When you ask for the pay adjustment, do some research and be ready with answers as to why you think you deserve it and be professional when negotiating.
     

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