Perceptions on Partnerships/ Distance Learning

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Paradigm Shift, Apr 19, 2020.

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  1. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift New Member

    Very tact of you, re-wording what essentially equates to distant learning.
    Well I suppose going to a university library and doing most of your online class from another university counts too. Technically you did attend a brick and mortar campus. ;)
     
  2. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I think the only controversy is that some people obsess over the RA or the highway notion to the point where any foreign school that can be evaluated as RA equivalent is seen as a good option. And it may very well be. But the reality is that for a number of people an Indian or African degree is going to raise more questions, and possibly more red flags, with an employer than the University of Management and Technology or the University of Fairfax. The former being somewhat ironic since there is a Pakistani institution of the same name.

    As for the online question, I don't even view that as clever rewording. The funny thing is that most people don't know much about doctoral programs. Many lend well to DL. I have known people working on their doctorates while working full time, moving away from the university as soon as their coursework was complete and working on their dissertation from somewhere else returning only to defend it (and the other periodic things that come up). And that happens at elite schools and has been happening for years before online learning was a thing. The online option really just opened up that initial conversation with more distant schools more readily. The conversation itself, however, didn't really change much (says a guy who has only observed doctorates from the outside).
     
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  3. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift New Member

    Well what's interesting is that going through this board I see that Groupon university, Universidad Isabel I, has gained some reaction and traction from a few folks. I've paid more for a flight ticket but seriously for that price I think it's somewhat noble of them. Yes its not a usable for any PHD or government jobs but to think one can get educated for the price of a flight ticket.


    Also going back to the whole new world of online Doctorate, I see more universities moving towards Distance Viva by video call. Which in some way is a decent advancement and keeping up with the times.
    Now I know some would say wearing a knights armor and entering a room to face off and defend your thesis till your dying breath is the only way to be granted the title.

    But picture this, if I were living somewhere in the states or neighboring country it'll be easy and cheap to fly down to do a defense, but a flight from where I'm from cost about $4k-7k. Thats about 3 months or so salary. Haven't counted cost of accommodation and what not.
     
  4. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift New Member

    Side note,
    I do enjoy hearing feedback and seeing everyone's responses on here.

    An external view of how each one perceives and shares what they've seen or gone through, makes me happy that I joined DL.

    Sometimes its hard to find people over here to discuss topics like these, since many have not studied overseas or work out of the country.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    ...in Spain.
     
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  6. asianphd

    asianphd Active Member

    Interesting. What university/country do you mean? India I know still affordable. But Singapore and Malaysia? I don't know it.
     
  7. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift New Member

    Most universities/colleges here partner with either UK or Australian universities, as our system follows closer to theirs (due to the colonial period)
    Counted that a majority in Malaysia do take the middle ranked universities, probably due to the cost benefit for both parties.

    Singapore has only a few partnerships but with slightly better ranking universities, due to the tougher regulations in education. UoL (University of London) comes to mind.
    Though it is a good alternative for those who can't get into NUS(National University of Singapore)

    As for affordability its comes down to a few factors.

    1) to attract local students or foreign students, they have to price their plans as to what most would be able to earn and pay back. Gov is slightly lenient on student loans and doesn't come knocking on your door with a guy wearing a vest that reads (Debt Collector)
    2) Market, what does everyone need or think they need in order to move from peon to peon with their own office room.

    3) Pass/Fail rate, brining a program from Oxford or Ivy League schools would just mean the demise of the program in 3 years or less. This is due to our wishy-washy education system. Sure every one can graduate from college but asking a majority to try their mediocre hand at the top schools, you'll see about 1/10 will actually succeed. Hence the middle/lower ranked programs are brought in.

    4) I think I've mentioned it awhile back. But mainly most that pursue anything past a bachelors, are just looking for that piece of goatskin parchment that say some sort of foreign degree. Preferably UK, US, Aus.
    It gives them sort of an ego boost and at the same time a second glance from hiring firms that they attended not some local university, *note not all local universities are as bad as it sounds, just a majority aren't that great.
     
  8. asianphd

    asianphd Active Member

    ^
    Oh well, thank you. I think either Singapore or Malaysia university offering an online degree. I've done some research already. I wanted to take a math program (AS/AA/BA/BS/PgCert/PgDip) to improve my credibility. I am from Indonesia where the education system isn't much flexible as the others. I saw Malaysian uni offering several programs, but most of them is a management degree.
     
  9. Paradigm Shift

    Paradigm Shift New Member

    I'd reckon you'd almost be better off taking something online from a foreign university, if you're still keen on looking at programs, there are a few that may meet your criteria but not many offer online courses.
    Anda boleh pm saya untuk bertanya lebih banyak.

    As mentioned the market demand is more on business management roles. Though looking T your background, seems like you've covered quite a lot of areas of study.
    May I query why Math?
     
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  10. asianphd

    asianphd Active Member

    Terima kasih. I will PM you.
     
  11. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I didn't do that. What ever gave you the idea that I did?
    No, I didn't. Not at all. I earned a degree from a school with a "brick-and mortar campus." At no point was I ever in residence there, nor did any work credited towards the degree (except a 1-hour thesis defense).
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    IIRC, Northcentral and Trident do their vivas at a distance.
     
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    As with all issues with foreign degrees, it would be important to see how they are recognized (or not) by credential evaluation services and domestic universities.
     
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