Breyer State University

@ Back2Cali:

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"Your search for all("Breyer State University") found 0 results. "

 

Indeed it could. I believe Warren, OH is (at most) 5 miles from the owner's home doorstep. :smile:

Johann

 

Operators are standing by . . .

 

It's a very rare case . . . a double necromancy. The thread was started in 2005 and raised from the dead in 2012. It dies again and now I've brought it back to life again. It seems that we have to talk about Breyer State every 7 or 8 years

https://www.nj.com/news/2008/08/state_criticized_over_diploma.html

 

Are they the same as
Breyer State Theology University?
No recognized accreditation.

And what are these "Ethereal" degrees?

 

They've just added the religious modifier, as required by state law on religious exemption. They've also inserted 'theology' into their name and added the word 'ethereal' in front of each granted degree. It would be interesting to see the employer's reaction to a candidate with an "Ethereal Masters in Business Administration" or "Ethereal Doctor of Business Administration" degree. It might get a few laughs at the office. The FAQ section indicates that they've been operating since 2001, but the religious transformation appears to be a late development. The link on the wikipedia page indicates that we're dealing with the same university. That said, wikipedia isn't the best source for fact-checking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Breyer_State_University.

 

LOL! That is so laughable. Sheesh! LOL!

 

Well, Thomas H. Schear, Breyer State's President is still around, as is the claim to AAHEA membership:

https://breyerstate.com/accreditation/

BSTU is apparently also a member of the International Commission for Higher Education, www.ieacommission.org.

This is an Axact thingy. The website was created in February last year and hosted on a Leaseweb server in the Netherlands. Other sites in the same IP range include MUST University, Midtown University, RISE University and Gibson University. All Axact schools.
https://myip.ms/browse/sites/1/ipID/82.192.83.0/ipIDii/82.192.83.255

By the way, Ehab El Shamy, Breyer State's Chief Executive Officer has recently launched the American International Theology University, https://aituedu.org/board-members/, not too long ago included in ASIC's international directory, candidacy accreditation. Dr El Shamy is/was Charisma University's Senior Vice President for International Programs

 

Oooo! I love a good crossover post!

 

Theological institutes are requited by law to use "religious" modifiers. Spiritual PhD in BA sounds kind of silly so Ethereal is not very usual so some people think is actually a business designation.
This is not new. University of Sedona uses "Metaphysical MAster of Business Administration", this sounds also odd as Metaphysics is a branch of philosophy and it seems kind of silly to call a degree with this designation but it is a legit way of offering an unaccredited MBA under a theological school.

The market of these degrees is mainly international students. As these schools are legit in the US, they can issue Hague convention apostille for degrees and in some countries this is enough to get your degree recognized.

Not as a stupid as it seems, it keeps the cost low as no accreditation is required and the market for cheap US degrees is high. Faculty for all we know is non existing so people are just required to answer Multiple choice questions with no instructor assistance so operation cost is low and degrees sold for few thousand are just profit as cost is just printing it from a printer.

 

Well then if I ever move to California I'm going to set up a Buddhist Business School where I can award Masters in Zen Business Administration and a Venerable Doctor of Business Administration degrees

 

One of the registered Florida religious institutions (King Solomon University) has a helpful list of religious modifiers on it's website. The list features the word 'pure.'

Personally, I would go for "Doctor of Pure Business Administration."

Link: https://zoniksuwebpage.weebly.com/doctoral-degrees.html

 

Oh. My. Gosh. I was...50 years old when this thread began. I'm drawing Social Security now and it isn't due to early retirement. Well, as they say around here, "Una cosa mala nunca muerte."

 

"muere."

 

No. It is NOT legit. It is just a sleazy way for a (supposedly) religious school to try sneaking around its obligation not to issue secular degrees. Various unaccredited religious schools have been caught by authorities for awarding MBAs in Church Management, etc.

Apostilles, you say? The purpose of an apostille, contrary to what the crooks at degree mills say, is to declare that the attached document is genuine - i.e. not a forgery. A milled degree is a milled degree - If it has an apostille, it's a genuine milled degree. That's all. The apostille does not legitimize the document or say anything about its contents, value or quality. The degree sellers like customers to think it does, though. This actually works -- sometimes.

If someone in whatever country thinks an apostille makes a bad degree legit, then that person is sadly misinformed.

 

The internet killed the fun of diploma mills.

There was a time when diploma mill operators had to be cagey. This was because of how they had to advertise and how they had to collect fees. So it was necessary to set up in ways that looked legitimate, avoided law enforcement, etc. It made for some really colorful characters and stories, most of which were chronicled by John Bear in his books.

But no more. Now they're boring and all the same. If one gets knocked off, ten sprout up to take its place. Now the only interesting ones are those that try to exhibit a veneer of legitimacy. This thing ain't that.

 

Gosh, when was the last time I read the word "apostille"? Makes me almost nostalgic for old K-W!

 

For reasons not clear to me this thread caused me to go to the Atlantic International University website to see what they had on their page these days.

The three organizations that jumped out at me are, in no particular order:

1. Medieval Academy of America
2. Cato Institute
3. Heritage Foundation

Of course, for actual accreditation they seem to rely solely on the power of ASIC.

But, you know, I suppose if you are into the work of the Cato Institute then perhaps their membership of some sort might reassure you of...something?

This is the only one I've found that attempts to maintain that veneer of credibility and has done so for so long. Of course, that .edu extension doesn't hurt their efforts.

 

At least in regards to the Cato Institute, one is able to donate to this organization and thus become a "sponsor" on several different monetary levels. It would be a simple matter to tweak this sponsorship and transform it into an "affiliation" or even a "partnership." This would look somewhat impressive but would not necessarily indicate that the Cato Institute knew anything about you and it certainly wouldn't lend your organization any level of credibility.