Tulane Law Title IX Certification: Is it worth it?

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  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    So, I've always had an interest in higher ed Title IX investigation. I applied for a few in the past and never received an interview. I believe then I had my B.S. and MBA. However, it seems as if they prefer people with J.Ds. They also tend to list a master's in higher ed as preferred. Although I served as a police officer for over 5 years, including criminal intelligence (covert), patrol, and university police, I don't have experience investigating sexual assaults, harassment and those incidents favored for Title IX positions.

    I am now contemplating Tulane's Title IX Investigator Specialization Certification. It's $6,900 with their current discount. I wonder if it's worth it? Is there any other way to get into Title IX investigation?

    https://tulaneonline.com/titleix-specializations/

    I do have both a B.S. and M.S. in CJ, plus I'm 33 credits into my Ph.D. in CJ.
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

  3. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Why do you say no?
     
  4. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    Yes, I'd like to know too.
     
  5. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Personally, I think that is a reasonable market price for the program and that Tulane is a very respectable school, therefore I would think that it could be a worthwhile endeavor. While I don't believe there's a school that could pay me enough to want to deal with Title IX issues as my primary focus, to each their own. Certainly an argument could be made that Title IX work should be handled by a JD, most of the coordinators and administrators at institutions that I'm familiar with, do not have lawyers as their coordinators or administrators. I would think that a doctorate of criminal justice, experience as an investigator/law enforcement, and a credential such as this would make a strong candidate.

    Would have a couple other thoughts to consider though. Is this actually a career path you're interested in full-time? Have you looked at the salary ranges? I wouldn't necessarily see it as a good path towards a full time or tenure track faculty position, if that is your goal. If you're pondering going this way, could you work into one of your Doctoral CJ projects, to help your university polish their Title IX procedures? That would really look good on an application. Most people who attend these types of events, are not personally paying for them, they're having them paid for by their organization as part of their professional development or training for a new position. If you do go after the faculty position overseas, I would bet you'd have a strong chance of having something like this paid for as part of a PD grant. If you're considering doing this sooner, and paying for this out of pocket or with student loans from your doctoral program, I would also consider the networking benefits of something like this. While it's an online program instead of in-person, if their is student interaction you'll likely have a strong possibility of learning alongside people already working in Title IX offices. Never discount the value of building a strong professional network. If you weren't seriously striving for a full-time Title IX position, I simply wouldn't pay money out of my pocket to attend the course. You can always obtain Title IX Training for a curriculum vitae for free, from any school that you adjunct with.
     
  6. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I think the salary for Title IX investigators is decent, most I've seen are in the high 50s to mid-60s. This is comparable to many full-time faculty positions, even some tenure-track, depending on the school and location. I have also read some horror stories about Title IX work. However, having worked at a private Catholic university and a state university, both in public safety/police roles, I must say I enjoy working on college campuses. I honestly don't know what I want to do for the rest of my life. I think my greatest passion lies in juvenile justice. I am leaning towards probation counseling, public policy/program development, training.. any professional level position in juvenile justice with a good salary.

    I currently teach at a Catholic, college preparatory high school. We get a $500 reimbursement each semester for graduate degree courses. There are also professional development funds, which usually require you to pay for it and be reimbursed. I know a colleague who wanted to do training last summer for his AP course. I believe it cost $1,700 but he didn't want to pay it out of pocket and be reimbursed so the principal told the business manager to pay for it upfront. I know Tulane has K-12 Title IX courses, so I may be able to convince my principal to pay for one or two of those.

    As for the overseas position, I will be interviewing tomorrow (fingers crossed). Initially, I applied out of a joke. I didn't expect an interview nor was I seriously considering going to that country. However, after several hours of YouTube videos and other research, I'm convinced that I'm ready to go if offered the position. I'm young, curious, and ready to explore something different. Most of all, I want to save a lot of money.
     
  7. copper

    copper Active Member

    Would this training be a good addition for one with a MSHRM looking into getting hired by a University?
     
  8. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I'm pretty sure if you also have some type of investigative background or compliance experience. I've seen some Title IX that lists HR as a desired major especially when it's tied to EEO and/or Civil Rights investigations. In fact, today, I saw one at a Duke for an Equal Opportunity & Compliance Investigator. I saw another at Georgetown for a Title IX & Civil Rights Investigator. So yea, if you handle HR investigations/compliance issues and can articulate that, I'm sure adding this training along with your MSHRM could make you a good candidate.
     
  9. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    I wish you the best with the interview tomorrow. Good luck!
     
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  10. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I'm sorry, I didn't intend to be so brusque. Have you ever seen such a certificate listed as a job requirement? Universities have become adept at creating programs that they charge a lot for and that aren't really necessary to work in the field. Just be sure this certificate has a market before dropping the cash. Really, really sure.
     
  11. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen any positions that explicitly lists this certificate. However, knowledge of the subjects covered in the certificates is always listed.
     
  12. copper

    copper Active Member

    So a Title IX Coordinator in an academic institution is not required to hold a certification of some sort or receive formal training? Perhaps the MSHRM with an intensive review would suffice!
     
  13. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

    There are certifications for Title IX investigators and Title IX coordinators. I'm pretty sure you won't get a Title IX coordinator position without first accumulating a few years experience as a Title IX investigator.
     

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