med school question

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  1. wfisher698

    wfisher698 New Member

    Hi, does anyone know about medical school in Antiqua? There is a school the Uniersity of Health Scineces-Antiqua. It is partially on-line and face to face. Does anyone know someone who has became a MD there?

    Wanda
     
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  3. AJArndt

    AJArndt New Member

    From the USMLE website FAQ:
    'I am a graduate of a medical school outside the United States and Canada. How can I get information on what is required to enter graduate medical education and/or practice medicine in the United States?'
    The Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG) provides such information. Through its program of certification, ECFMG assesses the readiness of graduates of medical schools outside the United States and Canada to enter residency or fellowship programs in the United States. The ECFMG® Certification Fact Sheet provides an overview of ECFMG certification and entry into US programs of graduate medical education. For detailed information on these topics, including eligibility to take the USMLE, refer to the ECFMG Information Booklet. Both publications are available on the ECFMG website. Students and graduates of medical schools outside the United States and Canada can also contact ECFMG for information. (www.ecfmg.org)


    The International Medical Education Directory (IMED) provides an accurate and up-to-date resource of information about international medical schools that are recognized by the appropriate government agency in the countries where the medical schools are located. The agency responsible for this recognition in most countries is the Ministry of Health. Medical schools that are recognized by the appropriate agencies in their respective countries are listed in the International Medical Education Directory.
    A medical school is listed in IMED after FAIMER receives confirmation from the Ministry of Health or other appropriate agency that the medical school is recognized by the Ministry or other agency. FAIMER also updates the International Medical Education Directory as information about medical schools is received from Ministries of Health or other appropriate agencies.
    (http://imed.ecfmg.org/) **Note: UHSA is listed

    Lists a graduate, in Anesthesiology residency at Med. College of Georgia (Cathy Pelham, MD)
    http://www.mcg.edu/som/anes/residency/current.htm
     
  4. bullet

    bullet New Member

    There is allot of controversy surrounding the school.




     
  5. Testing

    Testing New Member

    Could you please elaborate...


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    Originally posted by bullet

    Re: med school question
    There is allot of controversy surrounding the school.
     
  6. bullet

    bullet New Member

    chicken wings - yummy.

    The Offshore medical education world is (can be) divided into two main categories of acceptance:

    (a) Those that accept DL education as part of your MD preparation.
    (b) Those that do not accept DL education as a part of your MD preparation.

    From the above – controversy is born.

    One of the schools that allow “off campus” education is UHSA (or up until recently allegedly it did) and as far as I understand, other schools that practice(d) this system are either defunct or in the process of being defunct or are simply small enough to swim under the radar.

    Here is my understanding of the system (factor in I could be wrong):

    Theoretically to qualify for externship or off-campus education through UHSA you should fall within the allied health or professional health category (Nurse, Chiropractor, Podiatrist, etc).

    Some, most, all of these professionals (?) obtain advanced standing under the precept that you have already covered a reasonable - (most, all ???) portion of your Basic Sciences under your previous Health Related Degree --- (examples: Chemistry, Biology, Physics, etc) so, you are given credit for these subjects and you can then advance into or almost into the Clinical Science phase of your PENSUM, which in conducted at hospitals, also called “rotations.”

    Again, there is controversy on the issue of how prior credit is awarded, to whom it is awarded , etc…… even more controversy on going into your clinical(s) and yet even more controversy over the usage of “mentors-big brother-big sister” systems.

    For the “against” crowd the above is a MEDICAL DEGREE LITE.

    For the “in favor” crowd the above is a modernization of MEDICAL EDUCATION.


    Here is a famous line, “IF I WERE YOU”:

    If I were you, and I had zero science background, I would consider UHSA for on campus education only during the Basic Sciences. ----- (Clinical(s) are conducted outside of the Caribbean, basically no matter which medical school you go to). Why would I do this? To avoid inconveniences in the future.

    If I were a Health Professional in any field, I would consider what it is I expect from my M.D. degree and if I plan (or not) to actually sit for my ECFMG/USMLE certification tests ------then actually do my residency training , then actually sit for my state licensing exam.

    Or

    Do I -- want to boost my ego and place those two letters before our after my name (Dr. or MD)?
     
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  7. japhy4529

    japhy4529 House Bassist

    Hi Wanda,

    I am unaware of this school. However, you may wish to check out Oceania University of Medicine - ([http://www.oceaniamed.org]). This school is located in Samoa, however you complete your pre-clinicals ONLINE (with the exception of an 8 week "Introduction to Medicine" course, which may be completed in Samoa or at college in Massachussets or Pennsylvania) and your clinicals at a teaching hospital in the U.S.

    Oceania is listed with the W.H.O. which means you can sit for the USMLE1 & 2 exams. An important item to note is that your home state of Georgia does not accept a degree from this school as sufficient for licensure in the state. Other (neighboring?) states may accept it, so do your homework first! Oh, and of course, there is the price - $108,000!!! Essentially, there are 18 modules @ $6,000 a piece. Oceania does offer a 50% loan deferment program to credit worthy applicants.

    I just learned about this school on this forum today. As with anything relating to offshore Medical Schools (especially one that operates via DL), be cautious.

    BTW, a Bachelor's degree is listed as a pre-req (as it should be!) as is the MCAT (unless you are a Healthcare prof. with at least 5 years experience). However, they don't require any Science prereq's! I would take them anyway though, since you will likely need this background to obtain a medical license in the U.S.

    - Tom
     
  8. bullet

    bullet New Member

    really dangerous like a King Cobra for a date

    Japhy:

    Doing any part of your medical education "online" with the specific intent of practicing medicine in the USA/CANADA is a "hazard" to your health and pocketbook. It is not sound advice.
     
  9. Aroon

    Aroon New Member

    Hi friends,

    Yes. It is not advisable to do your medical degree online. We, Doctors are medical professionals who treat patients in hospitals. We need to diagnose a patient, and prescribe medicines and treatment for disease. At least we need to do our bachelors (MBBS / Doctor of Medicine (MD) ) through a good medical college / university. It is our responsibility to treat the people who trust us.

    All the best!!
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    This question has two parts: can you become a doctor by going to one of these schools? And: is it a good idea?
    For the first question: with caveats (like "not in all states") the answer is yes. There are people who got licenses after going through the school in question, schools like it, and Oceania School of Medicine in particular. That Anesthesiology resident had made it.
    For the second: it is of course an individual student's decision. However, you should realise that getting to practice medicine is long and risky process with many, many moving parts. The major filter (beyond attrition that is brutal in the Carribs and almost nonexistent in US) is getting residency placements: for many years now, if you factor in Carribean and other international grads, there are more medical grads in US than accredited residency spots. If you factor in the fact that almost all US MD grads and most US DO grads get a spot, you realise that International grads face rather long odds. Going "online" route gives one a serious further handicap. Considering time and money commitments involved, this presents rather scary risk.
    For most students, it makes sense to stick to US schools. Failing that, consider "big four" or "five" big-name Carribean schools (like St. Georges or Ross). If that's not an option, look into becoming a PA, Nurse Practitioner, or a Podiatrist. Beyond that, make sure you have a plan to pay off crushing debt in case you fail to match after graduation.
     
  11. Aroon

    Aroon New Member

    Hi Andrew Jairus,

    Like your son even I wrote my NEET exam this year. But my marks are not that great to get a medical seat in India at Government College. I have also decided to do my medicine program abroad. I have heard that there many medical universities in the Caribbean region. I have done a little research on the medical schools which are good in the Caribbean which I am sharing for you. They are Ross University, American University of the Caribbean School of Medicine, Texila American University etc…
     
  12. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    Aroon, is there an award for bringing back threads from the dead? If so, you get it. How about creating something new?
     
  13. Aroon

    Aroon New Member

    Thanks for your suggestion. I have created a new thread too.
     

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