Triple dipping to get 3 degrees from 3 different places?

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  1. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    From ancient memory, that would be against the rules in New York. Memory is squeaking to me that you need so many distinct credits in each of the major and general education.
     
  2. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Sure, that's typical and not quite what we're talking about here. What I have seen in several schools policies is that if you have previously completed a degree, they will consider all your Gen Eds as being complete, even if the Gen Ed requirements of the previous degree are not the same as the second one.

    Another trick/loophole is that one could complete the simplest, easiest degree from one of the Big Three (last I remember, it was the BS in Liberal Studies from Excelsior), then enroll in another school's degree program which would have had a more difficult to obtain variety of Gen Eds and electives and/or would not accept as much nontraditional credit per their policies. Just do the major courses and BOOM. Done :)
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I see this as highly unlikely. A specific piece of research for a dissertation is shaped in large measure by the dissertation advisor and committee The probability that two different advisors would accept the identical piece of research for a doctoral degree is remarkably small. We have heard time after time of a doctoral candidate losing there advisor only to have the new advisor drag the research in an entirely new direction.
     
  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That, and you'll be outed by TurnItIn.
     
  5. cookderosa

    cookderosa Resident Chef

    To answer that question, you'd have to carefully examine each of his school's policies. I do not think there is a universal policy that would apply here. I answered assuming he did everything by the book, but if he broke the rules, then my admiration backs down to zero. It's easy and lazy to cheat- it's much more fun to watch someone hack a system (imo).

    EDIT to add: my graduation application *physical piece of paper* at TESU specifically required me to verify /sign that I wasn't using my credits somewhere else or on another degree. I can't recall the exact wording, and it's not on their website- because I've looked. Maybe someone enrolled can confirm if this is still the case. I don't recall anything like that when I went to culinary school, and I know for sure there was nothing I signed like that for grad school- so I really do believe it's specific to each school and whether or not they have a reason to write it in and the ambition to verify.
     
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  6. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    My thought was for PhDs by publication, you publish 3 articles and the send them to 3 schools. Sure, the way it is presented and it is formatted in a dissertation would need to be different for the 3 schools but it is possible. You would need to defend them 3 times.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Ok well even if it was technically possible I don’t see why anyone would bother.
     
  8. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    The California State University system, where I got both of my degrees, has policies in place to address multiple bachelors degrees. If somebody completes degree requirements someplace for one major, they allow the student to transfer the general education credits into a CSU for another bachelors program. They don't allow the student to receive a second bachelors degree in the same major and all of the major credits for new major have to be completed de novo. I suppose that some of those credits might be done elsewhere and transferred in too (and hence used more than once), which is probably why the CSUs typically require that at least 30 semester units be completed at the school that awards the degree.

    I'd guess that the catalogs at most universities have small-print rules like that. Maybe some universities don't check, or some of the 'big three' type schools are especially vulnerable to double or triple dipping.
     
  9. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member


    All such credits may be so applied?
     
  10. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Yes, provided that the general ed requirements at the first school correspond to those at the second. When I did it, I transferred all of my general ed from a biology bachelors into a bachelors in philosophy at San Francisco State, and only had to do one additional writing class that they had added to the requirements in the interim.
     
  11. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    Thanks, that should inform some readers.

    I don't think that's true in New York but I was once wrong about something I've forgotten.
     
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    i agree, but the s
    There are some programs out there that lead to double graduation from a PhD program, many times the second PhD comes from a more recognized school. I know someone that completed a PhD program from a local school in Africa and got a second PhD from a French school. The second PhD gave him more opportunities as the French schools have more reputation in general.

    There are similar agreements with schools such as Central Nicaragua, you get a PhD from a local school and a second from Central Nicaragua. Many times the first degree comes from an unaccredited school.
     
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  13. mintaru

    mintaru Active Member

    This website claims joint PhDs are originally a French concept. https://www.findaphd.com/advice/phd-types/joint-phds.aspx
    From that site:
     

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