IMMACULATE CONCEPTION

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

  2. FTFaculty

    FTFaculty Well-Known Member

    Seem like a lot of Republican politicians like to latch onto Christian lingo and cozy up for votes without understanding either faith or Christ. And every election cycle you get these megachurch preachers and Christian power brokers cozying up to the politicians and giving them endorsements of a sort, e.g, Jerry Falwell, Jr., Franklin Graham, Rod Parsley. The politicians get the votes they want, the mega types get the feelings of importance they want.

    To me it looks like an alliance of self-interested people vying for attention, power and money, willing to use any means necessary to get it, caring not one whit, at the end of the day, for the sheep they manipulate for votes and separate from their money. Does anyone really think Jesus matters among these crowds? Of course, the left has its own set of issues, but phony religiosity is nowhere near the top of their list.
     
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  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    A Roman Catholic woman once said:

    • "The nomenclature of Catholicism needs to be changed to make it easier to understand. For example, the Catholic term 'Immaculate Conception' is confusing for Protestants because it instantly makes them think of how Jesus was born into the world without sin -- perfectly."

    She is correct i.e. the nomenclature is extremely confusing for Protestants who have never studied Catholic dogmas or Catholic theology. It's a vernacular barrier that creates instantaneous impedance. You might as well speak in Latin to Protestants because it has just as much inefficacy. LOL

    What is the solution? Two thousand years of tradition is not going to change, based on vernacular differences.
     
  4. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    That's a fair point.
     
  5. Orly Dunstan

    Orly Dunstan New Member

    Cuomo being a dick - not exactly news. Gaetz was employing a figure of speech and despite a show of ignorance 100% of Christians would understand to what he was referring. Only dicks demand metaphors be accurate when by definition they are not.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Nice try, but when you try to use a religious metaphor to pander to your party's base and screw it up, you deserve to get called on it.
     
  7. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Exactly. It does accomplish its purpose though, which was to change the subject and hence to dodge the Congressman's point, which was that the FBI somehow losing all the text messages between the FBI's top figures relevant to a Congressional investigation was "the greatest coincidence since the Immaculate Conception." The subject being discussed was the attempted destruction of evidence (by the FBI!), not some arcane details of Christian theology.
     
  8. Michigan68

    Michigan68 Active Member


    I always thought it was funny that many Catholics and Non-Catholics think that the Immaculate Conception has to do with Jesus . . . when it is actually the conception of Mary.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    One of the tax reforms I'd like to have seen was the complete elimination of the deduction for charitable contributions (along with ending the deductibility of all sorts of interest paid). My thinking ran like this: The Tax Code restricts the political speech of religious leaders in their pulpits because of that deduction, not because the churches themselves don't pay income tax. Eliminate the deduction and churches would be treated like political parties which also do not pay tax. Contributions to political parties aren't deductible. There would be no further need for the restrictions on political speech and no further need to police it.

    The GOP tax cut reduced the effectiveness of the charitable deduction but did not eliminate it. Maybe next time.
     

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