WLC Sues DEAC for $17.4M, Identifies Corruption and Incompetence in Federal Complaint

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  1. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Funny, I've been 32 for like 20 years. By the time we get there it will all be VR anyway, and history lessons won't be stories about the past, they will be games about the past. Word.
     
  2. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Thats right. Most people don't know this, but Abner and I spent months in 2010 working with several California workers unions trying to get very low cost DL programs available to their members, including many a Sunday presentation.
     
  3. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yeah, and both us on unpaid time.
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I would wager that I've spent more time in Federal court than any non-lawyer here.

    I hold no degrees or other qualifications from a DETC/DEAC school, nor do I or have I worked for one in any sort of capacity, so I have no skin in the game. I'm just pointing out what I saw as an unprofessional, unnecessary, and cheap shot at someone's credentials that could play a role in the jury's minds.
     
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  5. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Email Exchange with DEAC Executive Director

    Here is the exhibit. Make of it what you will. This was the only, and the entirety of the exchanges concerning our show cause letter AFTER they surprise publicly published it. After this, all communications from them came from their lawyer, and they started copying their lawyer even on communications to our staff.

    http://loveland.college/ExhibitN.pdf

    Obviously you have to start at the bottom. Also note, we get the public show cause letter with no warning, this is the first official communication from the DEAC Commission after our site visit, not after months of working with us, sending in other examiners, nothing.

    They give me 28 days to respond (their stupid (IMHO) book says I should get 30 days, hence our request to have a federal court force them to start following their own handbook in our complaint).

    I receive it on Feb 27, it says the Executive Director is busy and isn't available until March 8. Thats 9 of our 28 days to respond right there, and I have to tell you think about how that felt, surprise public show cause and I have to sit for 9 days before I can even ask a question, dealing with public fall out and trying to figure out what is going on.

    You can read the rest. Also remember during this exchange they have publicly stated on their website that we were notified January 2016. I had a donor call me and ask if I had known about this for a year, hidden it, and still solicited their donation.

    Also, I am having board members resign and generally just trying to figure out what is going on.

    Lastly, look at the quality of communication, and think about which organization represents as professional, and which represents as being on public show cause in the exchange.
     
  6. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    I moved this to a new thread as it really is its own thing.
     
  7. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    I'm sure I'll have more to say as time allows, but in the meantime, I think it accurate to speculate that (keeping in mind that I am not a fan of DEAC), WLC will be trounced by DEAC.

    I'm sure the whole thing will be quite entertaining.
     
  8. dlady

    dlady Active Member

    Probably. Their acronym has more letters, after all.
     
  9. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Let's not have too many threads on this because it realty is just one thing.
     
  10. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    Yep. 100% in agreement.
     
  11. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Dr. Lady,

    I applied to WLC in 2014 and was accepted. I was unable to attend at that time but intended to start classes now. WLC seems like a fine college and I would still like to attend. Will WLC reopen, perhaps with a different accreditation? Will ILM continue? I appreciate any help you can give me .
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I haven't checked but didn't we hear that the website was shut down?
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    We did. It is. Just checked.
     
  14. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Hello Dr. Lady,

    I applied to WLC in 2014 and was accepted. I was not able to attend at that time because of personal and financial reasons, but I intended to start classes now. Will WLC ever resume operations, perhaps with a different accreditation? Will ILM still offer classes since its not college credit? I appreciate any help you can give me. WLC seems like a fine college and the colleges in my state accepted the courses as transfer to their MBA programs.
     
  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Rather than posting your question here every day, I'd like to suggest that you contact Dr. Lady through LinkedIn. You are far more likely to get his attention that way.
     
  16. SweetiePie

    SweetiePie New Member

    Unfortunately he is no longer on LinkedIn. Sorry, I didn't realize I posted it twice. I'm new to degreeinfo (and I also tend to be click-happy).
     

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