Dept. of Ed axes ACICS

As far as I can tell, accreditation by state agencies is accepted for vocational and nursing programs.

 

And...

Institutional Accreditation by the Board of Regents

The New York State Board of Regents and the Commissioner of Education serve as the nationally recognized accrediting agency for 20 institutions of higher education in New York State. One result of this accreditation is that these institutions are eligible for Title IV funds under the Higher Education Act if they choose to participate in these programs.

Scope of Accreditation

The United States Secretary of Education recognizes the New York State Board of Regents and the Commissioner of Education for the institutional accreditation of those degree-granting institutions of higher education in New York, including distance education offered by those institutions, that designate the agency as their sole or primary nationally recognized accrediting agency for purposes of establishing eligibility to participate in HEA programs.

Institutional Accreditation :OCUE:NYSED

The Rockefeller University is one school that I believe does not have regional accreditation in addition to NYS accreditation. Nor does it need RA.

 

ACCET only covers continuing education and training. How are they relevant?

 

This. Much discussed.
Of the 20 schools Regents accredit, only a few appear to be generic career-type schools. Great majority are specialized institutions, many affiliated with reputable institutions (Sloan-Kettering, Christies Auctions, Cold Springs National Lab, Memorial Hospital); these schools stand on their own with no real need for RA. Two schools are seminaries (Salvation Army Officer Training School and (Russian Orthodox) Holy Trinity Seminary at Jordanville) - churches are real and so are the schools.

It seems that NYS Regents have rather exacting accreditation standards; not one shady outfit in their degree-granting bunch. One can say they are doing better, on average, than RA accreditors. Still may not be enough for WES Canada though...

 

They fulfill the legal requirements to operate in New York and then set their own standards. Why take the expense of RA accreditation just to take the straitjacket then imposed?

Juilliard is another New York school that could probably live on just its reputation.

 

the sad thing is all those that already have a degree and are still paying off student loan debt.

 

How does this affect graduates?

 

Since ITT has also been shut down, there are several services that will effect past students. Like life time retraining and job placement. plus the fact that few students from ITT got jobs paying any where near enough to afford their student loan debt and living expenses.

 

If the accredited Institute of Forest Clowns loses accreditation then its current students may be hosed but the graduates still have their degrees from an accredited school.

 

Never happen! We'll go on forever! :smile:

If you go down in the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise ... (from Forest Clowns' Picnic)

J.

 

(1) If a clown falls over in the forest, is his school still accredited? :smile:
(2) What is the sound of accreditation being lost?

J.

 

I hope so cuz you're a fetching lot. Kennel Forest Clown's irlanninvesispanielit

But with a name like Johann, I'd never have guessed you are Irish. ;-)

 

Forest Clowns:eek1:

Clown warning issued in Middle Tennessee | WZTV

 

Oh, he's Irish to the core: J O'Hann.

 

En ole irlantilainen. Olen suomalainen! (I'm not Irish, I'm Finnish.) :smile:

Well, not really. English origin, actually. I just wrote that because the Forest Clown (dog) article was in Finnish. My real name is John. Nearly 60 years ago, my teacher called me Johann in German class. Latin teacher called me Johannes, Greek teacher (also taught Latin) called me Ιωάννης French teacher called me Jean. Later on, Spanish teacher called me Juan, Italian teacher called me Gianni, Ukrainian teacher called me Іван, Mandarin teacher called me Tang Guo Qiang... and so it goes.

J.

 

Much of the site includes English.

 

Of course. Finnish first, then English. But it was no fun to make silly remarks in English. Any of us could do that!

J.

 

Mostly when we're trying to be serious.

 

Okay, okay. Serious it is. Back to the latest on ACICS, then. The prevailing opinion is that if ACICS fights this (as they probably will) it'll likely be years before it's finalized. Some advise students who are halfway through their programs that they will probably graduate unaffected. I say sure, if your school is accredited when you graduate, you're technically safe. But if it loses that accreditation shortly thereafter, people tend to remember that and you (or at least, your degree) might well feel the effect(s) of the school's subsequently injured reputation. Bad things are more easily remembered than good. Here are the latest articles I've seen:

Charleston Gazette-Mail | In wake of ACICS decision, a crisis for WV’s for-profit schools

https://www.goodcall.com/news/students-schools-overseen-troubled-accrediting-agency-acics-options-07848

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2016/09/26/gi-bill-benefits-and-acics-colleges

J.