DeVry Adopts Reforms

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  2. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Marginal improvements, at best.
     
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm glad to see that this school left Canada some time ago. No real money in it for them in Canada, as they couldn't award degrees here. Other US-originated schools, like Herzing and the ill-fated Everest, face(d) the same restrictions in their north-of-the-border operations.

    J.
     
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  4. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Actually, DeVry had ministerial approval to grant degrees in Ontario, and still has one in Alberta (even though they appear to wind down operations there too).
    True, Canada is a much more difficult market for for-profits than the US, and higher ed is much less varied. I am not convinced this is necessarily a good thing.
     
  5. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Innovate or die, for- profit seems to have forgotten this. In Canada there is a need for-profit because I do not think the government universities are that good at delivering education to students who are not in the classrooms at a reasonable price. However, I think, it has to be something other than the U.S model I.e u of Phoenix etc.
     
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I think you're right. I looked at Athabasca University and found their prices were surprisingly high.
     
  7. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I've never considered DeVry to be one of the bad for-profits.
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    (1) My thanks to Stanislav. I had no idea that DeVry had ministerial approval to grant degrees anywhere in Canada. When I found they were gone, I thought of the wrong reason, obviously.

    (2) Yes, Steve - Athabasca does have high prices, as you said. If you're looking for Canadian distance education, you can get some relief (not much) by shopping around. My local uni. is high-priced too, although tuition is waived for those (like me) who are 65+. A long while ago, I heard University of Manitoba had the best distance-ed deals. Not sure if that's still true. New Brunswick was one of the few places where some DETC distance schools were allowed. The degrees, though legal, weren't accepted on par with those of the locals. The DETC schools weren't really cheap, either. The ones I knew about (Meritus and Lansbridge) didn't fare very well and closed, Lansbridge after its degree-granting permission was revoked, Meritus due to insufficient enrolment. I think Lansbridge had a branch out West - in British Columbia, that was closed for the same reason as its other branch.

    (3) I agree with Phdtobe that the public universities here are not good at delivering distance education at a reasonable price. I guess it can't be easy to do that and stay solvent. Maybe they need to work harder -or smarter, or something.

    J.
     
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  9. bceagles

    bceagles Member

    I agree here. I took a number of Keller GSM MBA/MSF courses at a local campus (and by campus I mean the 10th floor of an office building) and had a good experience. The instructors were great, not easy by any measure. The tuition was absurdly high. I was willing to attend because of the proximity to my work and the generous tuition reimbursement available from my employer. The generic name wouldn't be worth the money out of my own pocket.

    All that being said, I took real courses taught by real instructors with high standards.

    I just didn't feel that the Devry/Keller GSM name would be taken seriously in the marketplace (finance). I can't speak for the IT field, Devry/Keller might yield a better ROI there.

    My 2 cents
     

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