Windows 10

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  1. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    From "50 Nerds of Grey"

    "I've been a very bad girl," she said, biting her lip. "I need to be punished."

    "Very well," he said, and installed Windows 10 on her laptop.
     
  2. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    But, only after upgrading it from Win7 to Win8 first, thus guaranteeing it will run forever slowly.
     
  3. Kizmet

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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Don't upgrade. Seriously. It's never been a good idea to change versions of an operating system. Incremental upgrades (X.1, X.2, etc.) are fine; installing the patches Microsoft sends is essential. But going from Win7 to Win10 is a disaster waiting to happen. And for what? There are precious few features and none worth the headache inevitably coming your way with the upgrade.

    I upgraded a laptop from Win7 to Win10 and it bricked. I bought another with Win7 and it's running just fine. I also have an ultrabook with Win10 factory-installed and it runs perfectly.
     
  5. jhp

    jhp Member

    I am not upgrading to Win10, until Win12 comes out...
     
  6. Davewill

    Davewill Member

    I doubt your machine was "bricked". That means it no longer works at all, and you had to throw it in the trash. You probably mean it stopped booting up in Windows 10 and you had to go back to Win7. My ASUS G72J did that. I suspect I could find out what's wrong and get it to work, but it is satisfactory to me to leave that computer running Win7.

    So long as you can keep a backup to return to, there's no real risk in trying Windows 10 except for possible lost time if you have problems. I tried it in conjunction with upgrading to an SSD drive. I installed Windows 7 fresh onto the SSD, then upgraded. When Windows 10 failed, I could have simply recloned the SSD from my original drive and enjoyed Windows 7, but faster. In point of fact, I did another fresh Win7 install as I had been collecting cruft for years, then copied my data over from the old drive. If I someday figure out what the problem was, I might try again.
     
  7. RAM PhD

    RAM PhD Member

    Upgraded to Windows 10 from Windows 8.1 on my PC, laptop and wife's PC on 8-3-15. They've all run fine with no problems.
     
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Right. Gone.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'd have to think Win10 was a serious improvement over Win 8.x.
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No reason you shouldn't. As long as you get the version that's meant for the PI. Unlike regular WIN10 it's FREE! And in other ways, it's also very unlike everyday Windows 10!

    The regular version won't run. The free special version for the PI should be OK. All about it, here. Windows 10 on the Raspberry Pi: What you need to know - TechRepublic I'm a PI owner too, (Type 2) and have a Beaglebone Black as well. I've almost lost count of the Operating Systems I have for the two machines....largely Linux distros, though. It just amazes me what can be done with a sub-$100 machine!

    J.
     
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  11. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 more than 30 days ago. I did not need to use it for work use until yesterday. I found that most of my programs, some of which I bought, are no longer available. I needed PowerPoint which I eventually found using search.
    I tried to revert back to Windows 7 but found it is difficult after a 30 days.

    So far I hate Windows 10 (I use a PC and mouse).
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I love it (fast!) on my machine where it is the native/original OS. I hated it on a machine where it was an upgrade; it slowed my internet connection to a crawl. (And I tried everything to restore its speeds; I've owned PCs since 1985 and know a little about them.)

    There has always been an adage that you shouldn't ever upgrade an OS. I have always believed it and my experience the one time I went against it was a disaster.
     
  13. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Several people in my community are retired computer and software professionals. Many have switched over to Chromebooks and really like them; however they tell me that they are a poor choice for those doing engineering work. One friend has three; one for his business, one for his personal use, and one that his wife uses.
     
  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Wrong again, Johann. One of my son's high school students got full Win10 running on a Pi at school. And yes, it was as slow as Steve's Yugo! :smile:

    J.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I have one. They're convenient to have around, but I wouldn't want to rely on one as my only machine. If I didn't do more on a computer than just docs and spreadsheets, email, and web browsing then it would probably be fine, though.
     
  16. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    After installing Windows 10 earlier this year I have wasted numerous hours figuring out how to do each of the many tasks that I use the computer for. Last night really got frustrated trying to download photographs from a camera - I though I figured it out over 3 hours but today I can't find the folder I created - I know its name but searching windows and elsewhere does not find it. Many of the useful Microsoft features disapeared in Windows 10.

    I certainly would not recommend Windows 10 to anyone.
     
  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I've done this under Windows - pretty near daily, for many years... but I've ALWAYS used the command prompt to get the pics from the camera's SD card. Doing it that way, I find I NEVER lose pictures. Goes back to my Windows 3.1 days, when I used DOS to move stuff around, pics from my film camera that were put on floppies or CDs, others that I downloaded from the Net - and yes, even back then there was an Internet - of sorts, anyway. :smile:

    Does Windows 10 have a command prompt? If it doesn't, I don't want to even think about it. At home, I have XP. Here (at a college) I use Seven. I also own 3.1, 95 and 98SE - just in case I want to reminisce. I was lucky. I missed both Windows ME (Mistake Edition) and Vista.

    J.
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    BTW - hard to reminisce these days, with old Windows versions. I'm told 95 and 98 don't really work on machines less than maybe 10-12 years old; machines newer than that have more RAM than those old Windows versions can address - and that's a problem. I could install DOS and Win 3.1 under DOSBOX but...why? If I want really old-fashioned computing -and I do, I have some DOS apps that I run under VDOS, which is free and works nicely with my Win XP. Unlike the "real" DOS environment, the apps work fine with a 1366x768 display. If you use graphics, the thing scrunches down to 640x480 - so don't. But If you like WordStar, VisiCalc etc. or Borland C on a big screen, in perfectly clear type - it's the only way. Ancient ASCII graphics do work OK. I DID manage to program some of these early 80s-looking graphic displays in GW-Basic. I wrote them as programs because none of the ASCII-art generators would work in colour for me under VDOS - probably because they use ANSI-SYS and I think VDOS does it differently. I made a nice butterfly and some native-like rug designs. Then I turned them into Jpegs and printed them as 4x6 photos.

    J.
     
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  19. ProfTim

    ProfTim Member

    I am pissed at Microsoft. I don't want Windows 10 and kept responding no to their stupid popup messages. A couple of weeks ago I went to my computer and it had shut itself down. When I booted the machine it greeted me with a Welcome to Windows 10. I did not accept the user agreement and it reverted me back to Windows 7. However now I am getting a message that I am
    Not using a genuine version of Windows. I didn't want to upgrade because I have some software that will not run under Windows 10.
     
  20. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Yeah, I have to admit, I kind of went from being a little annoyed, to being kind of pissed. The same thing happened to me. I kept getting those pop ups, and I kept declining. Then one day, I sit down to use my computer, and Windows 10 was downloading. I guess they wore my down. So I let it download thinking that it would only be slightly different. Boy was I wrong! Even though I really don't have the time right now, I am unhooking my PC tomorrow and taking it to the shop so it can be restored back windows 7. It'll cost me $50.00, but I will be glad to pay it to get rid of Windows 10. Geez!
     

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