Remember Southern Pacific U ?

Very good answer, but as Singapore is currently very competitive due to the high numbers of foreign workers coming to work here, not to mention the wage is inflated also as they try to stand out from the competition with lower salary. Basically, supply is more than demands.

Therefore, her purchasing of SPU MBA degree and put it in her resume can be seemed as trying to stand out from the cloud by using a USA MBA degree. This causes many unfairness in the competition of job applications. Therefore, it actually can no longer be seemed as the job does not require a master degree explanations, just that by admitting means IDA, a government agency, as well as the MOM does not screen through properly and issue a work visa and job to foreigner. By tryingto "clarify" on the degree classification, as stated by MOM, is sth like trying to make it ambiguous so that the blame cannot be fall on them.

I would actually rather they adopt some form of degree evaluation agency like WES, which was also used in screen for work visa application in Canada. The IDA can actually help by tryingto provide the technology support.

I have raised an issues regarding donating to Universal Life Church for a Honorary doctorate which, at least have some legal standing according to ULC federal case. But it seemed to be posing many challenges, although I do have been qualified for a honorary doctorate for an accredited university, just that contributions to university is not enough. So, how can using SPU MBA degree mill, being acceptable, especially when using it to win the harsh competition during job application?

PS: http://www.degreeinfo.com/general-distance-learning-discussions/51974-i-qualified-honorary-doctorate-very-happy.html

 

Well, but using SPU MBA degree to stand out from the thrive competition here in job applications by submitting resume with education section listing the MBA degree is very deceiving.

 

I guess my feelings about it are, if you buy a degree, you deserve what you get. I will say, however, that there is a difference between an unaccredited degree that one has to work for (full 4 years of schooling, homework, papers, tests, etc...) and a degree mill piece of paper obtained only with a credit card. Before anyone outs someone, I say make sure the degree is from a mill and not just unaccredited. There are a small handful of decent schools that offer good educations that happen not to be accredited. So knowing the difference is crucial.

 

Hey NMTTD, welcome back. You've been gone for quite a while. Did you finish your degree at Florida? :sadwavey:

 

Almost!!! I can see the finish line Thanks for asking.

 

I really enjoyed reading your response. I, too, have been guilty of the well-intentioned "outing" of a couple of people. Looking back, I feel horrible about it. I'll never do it again. I figure that I'll let the chips fall where they may. Whether or not these individuals are competent, the truth will eventually come out on its own without my help.

 

PuppyMama: "...the truth will eventually come out on its own without my help...'

Well, maybe. But if you had been the mother of the young girl who died after being mistreated by the fake MD in North Carolina, you might wish that he had been 'outed' sooner, not after treating patients for nearly 20 years. (He had bought his MD on line from Metropolitan Collegiate University, and testifying in his trial was one of the most satisfying things I've done in this arena.

 

For another, more recent, example please see my new thread on Exploding Trucks in the "Accreditation" forum.

 

A few points:

If someone is in a position that requires the skill of an expert and professional judgment, such as the Mercer professor or the individual from Singapore, then either they did not possess the necessary skill and judgment to discern that they were the dupes of a mill scam or they are a fraud and a scoundrel. Fair game either way.

If I'd faked up a degree or two and was exposed and then, because of my lack of competence, ethics or both, was fired from my academic position and thrown into a tailspin from which I didn't recover, that would be my own fault, not the fault of the one who revealed the truth.

In the case of the young lady from Singapore, if the degree were truly just a matter of personal enrichment and irrelevant to her position, why did she include it on her vita and later post it for public consumption? Obviously, she wanted very much to project a level of academic skill and competence that she does not in fact possess.

Is discretion necessary on the part of the whistleblower? That would depend on whether the individual with the phony degree was discreet. If a co-worker said "Check this out" and pulled a diploma out of her file cabinet that said "Doctor of Philosophy, Breyer State University", and this was not on an online bio page and neither necessary for her position nor on her vita, I'd probably say nothing, possibly tell her "Uh, you know, that place is a scam". But if that same colleague had said PhD on her vita when hiring on and put it on an online bio where hundreds or thousands may have seen it, then all bets are off, the refutation of this fraud should be equally public.