Cleveland Institute of Electronics under 'Show Cause' status with DETC?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Mark A. Sykes, Apr 14, 2014.

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  1. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards Member

    Doubtful..
     
  2. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Wow, CIE is one of my favored DL schools.

    Maybe getting out of the degree business and remain shorter courses training provider is better for them at this junction.
     
  3. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards Member

    You keep making up posts and then quoting yourself to keep this topic alive..?
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Ed

    You see the TFN there, why don't you call and find out.

    Some one started this tread, I'm completing it. As of this Friday CIE is no longer accredited by DETC.
    I got email from admissions.
    You can email them or call them.
     
  5. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards Member

    Then just say that. Quoting yourself in multiple threads is both redundant and silly.
     
  6. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    Please show where he quoted himself.
     
  7. Ed Edwards

    Ed Edwards Member

    Use your eyes.
     
  8. Mark A. Sykes

    Mark A. Sykes Member

    I cannot find any mention of DETC on CIE's website. They are still listed as an accredited organization on the DETC website.
     
  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Sad. CIE was one of the founding institutions with the National Home Study Council. But the demand for electronics techs is disappearing. We don't fix things anymore.
     
  10. djundt

    djundt New Member

    CIE World College

    I am a current World College student with less than 6 months left for my B.S in Electronics Engineering Technology. I was informed last week that World College was closed and that I would have to finish elsewhere. I have contacted several other on-line colleges and non of them will accept any of my credits,so I have lost 4 years and thousands of dollars. World College deceived it's students and I hope that CIE also goes under before others get suckered in.
     
  11. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    World college was not in the business to deceive students.

    Your earned credits are DETC accredited and you can try to transfer to DETC accredited program.

    It may cost more but you don't have to start from beginning.
    DETC in 2013, 2014 raised the standards and number of small colleges no longer could meet the new standards of DETC.
    You gained knowledge, so don't give up.

    Try Granntham
    Admissions

    Transfer credit policy: undergraduate program

    Generally, undergraduate college-level courses completed at institutions accredited by accrediting agencies recognized by the U.S. Department of Education and/or the Council for Higher Education Accreditation, or foreign equivalent, will transfer, provided that grades of at least “C” are earned, and the course is similar in content and scope to work offered at Grantham University. Developmental courses will not be considered for transfer.

    You must complete at least 25% of the required credit hours with courses from Grantham to earn the bachelor degree.

    Some one I know just was promoted to Engineer position, he earned his Bachelors at Grantham.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Schools are accredited, not individual degrees or credits. A poster in another thread on the same subject (how many are there?) wisely commented that transfer of individual credits is a crapshoot at best, once the school that granted them has lost its accreditation - even if they were earned prior to the loss of accreditation.

    Seems like these other colleges didn't share your opinion, Lerner. Grantham is a good school and a worthy recommendation, but I'm far from sure they'll accept World College credits now the school is "post-debacle." I'd sincerely like to be wrong on this.

    My sympathy to djunt. Not a good situation. If you haven't tried Grantham -- see what they say. I agree with Lerner that it's a good school. Wish you luck.

    Johann
     
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  13. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    A thousand years ago I looked at Grantham's BSET. Looked good but a bit pricy. Now, however, Grantham has the d/l b.s. tech field to itself I guess.
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Johan, I'm not going to argue.

    I though that if the credit was earned during the time that schools in accredited then it deemed credit from accredited at the time school.

    The same is for the degree, if someone earned WC degree in 2007 at the time they were accredited, the transcript states that as well.

    So CIE is still around, they need to issue official transcript for the time the student was at World College.
    The transcript should state that it is DETC accredited.

    This way there will be better chance to get it accepted in to another program.
    There are private colleges out there who should be willing to get students.

    But it is up to them.

    Grantham has on line chat, Advisers available.
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    We sure don't. Most of the stuff that comes out of the Far East's factories isn't in fixable format any more - unless you like working with a microscope! Even worse (for electronics techs) is the fact that we don't MAKE stuff any more, either. Now THAT has bitten us, big-time, via offshore outsourcing. Designed in Cupertino, made for peanuts in Asia, etc.

    I'm slowly learning electronics (I'm an experienced slow learner :smile: ) just so I can make stuff. Not to save money (I couldn't - not ever) but just so I know how. So far I've made an FM radio that works and assembled half a computer. The rest of it will be done shortly. But guess where ALL the parts come from? We don't make them, either.

    And so it goes....good hobby, though.

    Johann
     
  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    A complete degree is one thing. A number of individual credits is often quite another. Often, one is "safe" as long as the degree was earned prior to any lapse of accreditation. This is not necessarily so with individual credits, as our friend Djunt has unfortunately found out. Another poster pointed out also that some HR people have been known to take a dislike to an institution that has lost accreditation and, wherever feasible, refuse to hire its former students or grads, regardless of when they obtained their qualifications. I'm not saying it's fair - but I do agree it happens.

    I think it's LAMEntable that no teach-out program was put in place.

    Johann
     
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  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    We don't fix things anymore

    I bought a brand-new Chinese made handie-talkie about a year ago for $50 on Amazon. Two bands, 2-meters and 432MHz, completely programmable with a computer, five watts with a one watt setting...fifty bucks.

    It came with a CD that had the programming software but after much frustration, I decided the software was a communist plot and resorted to freeware that worked just fine.

    The little beast is even Type Certified Part 90 meaning it can be used in commercial radio services, too.

    Fifty dollars. A fifth of what a similar Japanese unit would cost. There are no U.S. manufacturers anymore.

    You can't fix it because you can't get into it but for half a c-note, who CARES?
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I just spoke with Grantham University adviser.

    They will not reject WC college credit. The grades have to be above C to be considered.
    If course content is not matching some classes will be needed to be retaken.

    I think there is a chance for significant credit transfer from WC to GU.
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Exactly. It works almost forever, and then when it does "fry," you get a new one. And that's why they're not made here anymore -- and very little else is, either. I wonder, some days, why I want to learn to make stuff. But Im going ahead anyway...

    Johann
     
  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Thanks for checking it out, Lerner. I bet Djunt will be glad to read your post. Looks like a major "soft landing" might be in the works for him. Also a boost in earnings for Grantham, possibly, if word gets around in the former WC community. :smile:

    Johann
     

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