"More Than 40 Percent of Harvard Freshman Admit to Cheating"

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  1. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    TEKMAN, Sep 7, 2013
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  2. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Can't say I'm surprised.
     
    AV8R, Sep 7, 2013
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  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    The idea that a substantial number of people have done something that is less than honest is not surprising. The fact that it's Harvard means nothing.
     
    Kizmet, Sep 7, 2013
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  4. major56

    major56 Active Member

    And that’s only the 40 percent who actually admit to cheating …
     
    major56, Sep 8, 2013
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  5. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I'm not surprised at all. That's why I have to LOL at the people who think online students cheat a lot more. Looking at it from the sociological perspective, people are in a much more comfortable position to cheat off of their classmates because they see them in person on a regular basis. It's not as comfortable to ask several online classmates if they want to "form a study group" and bend ethical boundaries. Out of all of the online classes I've taken, only one person asked me if I wanted to "collaborate." Another thing that I've read in studies (and that was mentioned in the video) is that older students are less likely to cheat. Distance education students tend to be older than traditional college students.
     
    sanantone, Sep 8, 2013
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  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    sanantone, Sep 8, 2013
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  7. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    The statistics are apparently based on a survey of incoming Harvard freshmen about what they did as high school students.

    - 42% acknowledged cheating on homework assignments or problem sets in high school
    - 17% percent said they had cheated on a paper or a take-home assignment in high school
    - 10% acknowledged cheating on exams in high school

    Actually, it's not even about Harvard. So maybe it means even less than that.
     
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    CalDog, Sep 8, 2013
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  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    But, it does say something about the kinds of students that are admitted to the school. This could be an issue at many top-ranked universities where the competition for getting in is high. We also don't know if these students will continue this behavior in college. Harvard did have a cheating scandal last year leading to dozens of students being dis-enrolled. They weren't technically expelled because they were eligible to reapply.
     
    sanantone, Sep 8, 2013
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  9. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Potentially related, on This American Life this week:

    How I Got Into College (This American Life episode 504, September 6, 2013)
     
    Jonathan Whatley, Sep 8, 2013
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  10. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    Did they cheat - ever? I'd be surprised if very many people go through all of their years of school and didn't cheat just a little. It would be a pleasant surprise, but still.

    I didn't know any other student in high school that I would say with confidence was more honest than I was, but even I have to admit that there was a test I did not read the material for and found a way to look at the book without the teacher noticing. Once. I felt like I had let myself down and felt guilty about it for a reeeaallly long time and never did anything like it again... but... if anyone asked me if I ever cheated in school, the answer would be YES and could infer whatever undesirable traits about me after my admission.
     
    Maniac Craniac, Sep 8, 2013
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  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Don't feel bad MC, it just makes you an imperfect human like the rest of us.:hug:
     
    Kizmet, Sep 8, 2013
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  12. recruiting

    recruiting Member

    Is this a shock.. heheh :eek:mfg:
     
    recruiting, Sep 9, 2013
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