Bachelor of Information Systems with MBA concentration in Finance

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  1. Mr.Zian

    Mr.Zian New Member

    Hi Everyone,

    I'm in deep trouble now. I just graduated with BS in Information Systems with a 3.2 GPA and I got an offer from one of the best financial firms in the country BUT there is a problem. I did excessive drinking and partying a few years ago that got me into trouble. I have a two 2nd assault charges and a domestic violence case which was caused by being drunk and sending a threatening text msg to my cheater ex-girlfriend and i was charged with it. NOW, I have to go through a background check which probably result in revocation of the offer.
    I'm a totally different person now, don't drink or party like before BUT as you may know people judge people very easily.
    I'm going to enroll in a MBA program if the offer I got is revoked after the background check so i can buy sometime to get a lawyer and try to do something about my past.
    my question to those who are in the related field is, will pursuing in MBA/Finance be valuable along with bachelor in Information Systems? I heard MBA without experience isn't worth much so please HELP ME with some insights. I'm going through hell now because of my past in which I already paid the price for it. THANK YOU ALL in advance.
     
  2. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Making a point of describing her as a "cheater" reads to me as if on some level you're still trying to justify, excuse, or mitigate your action. Please don't.

    I hate to say this, but another thing you'll have to live with is that you don't get to set "the price." Whatever "the price" is, you may have to keep paying.

    What sort of work do you want to do? Line IT work, line finance work, IT management, financial management? In any particular type of industry or organization?

    Why the prospective choice, on top of your BSIS, of an MBA in Finance?

    Generally? You might want to look for an agency in your area that helps ex-offenders. In Canada, there are two national networks of local charities that help ex-offenders: John Howard Societies for men, Elizabeth Fry Societies for women. I don't know of equivalents in the U.S. on a national level, but there's activity locally. By way of example at least, here are some programs in the New York City area; here's something in Maryland. Elsewhere in the U.S., you might call 211, or ask a state employment/workforce office, a Salvation Army branch, or another social service agency for a referral.
     
  3. Mr.Zian

    Mr.Zian New Member

    reply to the thread


    I'm not trying to justify anything! The purpose of all the details I left was to give you a better vision of the whole situation so I can receive a more precise response NOT for you to give me bogus feedback that I don't really care about.

    I'm an IT specialist and Business Analyst at a hotel.


    I always wanted to get involve in the business side of IT and thats the reason I studied IS. I've been told that when you have a technical background, a degree in Business field would really help.

    The charges I have are just bogus. They are just "names". i didnt kill anyone or deal drugs or rape any body. You go to a bar, drink and push someone, they charge you with 2nd degree assault! i really dont wanna go to these agencies for ex-cons. Im not like that. I go to one of best universities in the area, University of Maryland.
     
  4. Mr.Zian

    Mr.Zian New Member

    I always wanted to get involve in the business side of IT and that's the reason I studied Information Systems which is the application of IT in Business world. I've been told that when you have a technical background, a degree in Business field would really help.

    The charges I have are just bogus. They are just "names". i didn't try to kill anyone or deal drugs or rape any body. You go to a bar, drink and push someone, they charge you with 2nd degree assault! i really don't wanna go to these agencies for ex-cons. Im not like that. I go to one of best universities in the area, University of Maryland.
     
  5. unprez

    unprez New Member

    Of course an MBA without experience isn't worth it. Save your money to hire a good lawyer to appeal your conviction.

    Worry about masters after you have at least 2 years of work experience. You may realize that an MBA isn't the path you want and prefer some other education path. Who did you assault, the chick or the dude who she cheated with.
     
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  6. michellepinto

    michellepinto New Member

    Well, whatever be the circumstance, you got to do what you got to do. Any company will require you to do a background check. YOu could confide in the authorities and explain your situation to them.
     
  7. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Thanks Jonathan.

    Lots of people drink and party without being assholes. You're just an asshole who got caught and now you're trying to blame the alcohol. So go get your MBA. Yeah, it will probably help your career. You should probably be in jail. With any luck you'll be doing your MBA from a cell.
     
  8. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Either way you will have a record. Get some experience then do the MBA. In the mean time, try to fight the charges and get them changed. Above all, be honest in the application process. You can always explain what happened aas opposed to being seen as a liar if you try to hide it.
     
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  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Save your personal attacks and follow the rules of the board. If you are not sure what they are, I am sure many will remind you.
     
  10. Phdtobe

    Phdtobe Well-Known Member

    Zian, you should do that MBA. If you are asked about your background in an interview, please be honest. You may also be eligible for a pardon, ask your lawyer. Take your bumps that life offers you, learn from them and move on. Be the person you want to be. Education is the great equalizer, go for the MBA, the rest will work itself out. You may not get that ideal job, so what?
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    the poster identified himself as a convicted domestic abuser. i commented. deal with it.
     
  12. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Well done, good job on following the rules of the board. I guess you are the judge and above all.
     
  13. I can't help you much with your choice but I would like to say, "JOB WELL DONE". Granted, my view point might be a little jaded since I'm a criminal defense attorney. However, in my short career I have lost count on how many people have been convicted of something and just give up (which normally leads to more offense). Contrary to popular belief, I seriously doubt you're an asshole (I could be wrong). Sometimes stupid stuff happens to good/decent people. Everyone is normally quick to judge if they have never been on the other side of the "v.". Take it with a grain of salt. You should contact a lawyer ASAP. Look into appeals or expungement probably (I'm not giving you any legal advice, this is just my personal opinion).
     
  14. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    Or rather, sometimes even basically decent people do really stupid things. The OP should talk to a lawyer about getting the record cleaned up.
     
  15. AUTiger00

    AUTiger00 New Member

    He didn't identify himself as a domestic abuser. He sent a text message to an ex-girlfriend, he shoved (assaulted) some guy in a bar. I'll be honest, kind of sound like bullshit charges to me. I couldn't count how many people I shoved in a bar when I was in college. What kind of pansy presses charges for getting shoved, anyway? Oh right, some liberal in Maryland, sounds about right.
     
  16. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Hold that thought.

    The poster's hope that others don't rush to judgment against him kind of gets clouded with his rushes to judgment against others.

     
  17. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I don't think it is popular belief, it seems to be the opinion of just one asshole.
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    As a moderator, isn't there another way of approaching a poster? I'm not so sure calling a poster that name isn't a bit "immoderate." Please don't start flame-throwing in a thread.
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Thanks, Randell. Typically, when I challenge this kind of behavior from this person, I get threats. Hopefully, your status as a fellow moderator will create a better result.
     
  20. Jonathan Whatley

    Jonathan Whatley Well-Known Member

    Every little while there's a story in the news with a case like this:

    A traditional-age college student accumulated $200 000 in debt for a liberal arts degree. A few years of marginal living with low pay and large monthly loan payments barely puts a dent in the principal.

    The former student themselves, or an advocate against student debt, says something to the effect that beyond a point, good people shouldn't have to keep paying for such a mistake. Or set of mistakes.

    When one of the news stories reaches this board, on the whole, posters here rip this argument to shreds. The arguments they make against it are mainly that the person with this millstone around their neck should take personal responsibility for their actions that brought about the millstone.

    I'm sympathetic to helping people with criminal records move on. I tried to offer what help I could think of upthread.

    But especially with this thing where the OP – in their post on this board, in the present – introduces the very person he was – charged with? convicted with? this part isn't clear – domestic violence against as "my cheater ex-girlfriend," my back gets up about taking personal responsibility here too.
     

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