Malawi Government Vs Columbia Commonwealth U.fraud Or Deception ?

Malawi is a country of about 11 million people and about the size of Pennsylvania. The country therefore should not be referred to as a tiny nation. However, it is too early to accept that CCWU has been properly accredited by Malawian government.

 

It would almost be better for CCWU to become a Malawian University in that sense. Eg an American insitutuion operating from Malawi (like the accredited American whatever in London). Earon mentioned the degrees are issued from Malawi. Is there an address/campus in Malawi? How does that work? In other words if it were a University in Malawi offering DL that might have a better shot than a US institution with no campus in Malawi being accredited by Malawi. If I remember, at one point early on there was some talk of cooperation between Malawi's national university and CCWU. Has that gone anywhere?

North

 

I recall Dr. Les Carr, the CCWU president, telling me that there is some collaboration going in Malawi between CCWU and other Malawi entities. I did not persue more info at the time, but I will discuss it with him when he gets back (from a global business trip) in about two weeks. I am aware that CCWU is developing some aids-related programs in Malawi. CCWU does have real addresses in Malawi. I believe there are two, and I have been told they are most certainly not mailboxes. Check them out at the CCWU website.

I advised Les Carr recently to make sure the above address was listed on the CCWU website, because a mailbox address would create a poor and mistaken perception. The CCWU website was changed swiftly after that information. Here (on this forum) we all have certain perceptions about institutions and mailboxes. There was also some concern on my part that Bear might make some comment about CCWU operating out of mailboxes, most likely because he wasn't appropriately informed. Malawi, like some of South Africa (e.g, UNISA), seems to use postal bags for mailing addresses. Perhaps Gert could enlighten us on this.

At this time I cannot say that the degree is issued from Malawi. I can also check that out with Carr when he returns. As I understand it there are certain plans in the works at CCWU with regard to serious and acceptable recognition, and the CCWU team is going about this strategic plan aggressively. Unfortunately there are ethical considerations around revealing the nature of that aspect of a strategic plan and I have advised Carr to refrain from making such announcements until such things come to pass. There is also, for example, a certain etiquette that should be followed with American accreditation agencies, and these protocols, I believe, are rooted in ethical considerations surrounding consumer interests. It's somewhat important to remember that CCWU is less than 1.5 years old, and to be frank, the velocity of attaining small benchmarks along its strategic timeline has only recently begun to increase.

My interest as a stakeholder with a vocal input on these matters is grounded in the need to represent alumni and consumer interests.
Earon

 

Malawi is indeed a nation of 11 million people. 11 million people with a life expectancy of 37 years, in which 97% are involved in subsistence agriculture and in which the average income is less than $600 a year.

It begs credibility that in this third world nation, a western school would become accredited without a building, a faculty, a curriculum or even an address. I am astounded that this issue is even given the time to debate it. Is there anyone so bereft of conscience that they believe a degree from this school is worthy of more than something for wrapping fish? This is not an issue of DETC accreditation, not State licensure, this is pure fantasy.

 

Well Wes, even granting you are right about the academic rigor? of this school, the intrigue is because of the possibility of a loophole in GAAP. This could, more so in Berne's case as North mentioned, make these "poor little country" degrees command more utility than Nationally accredited degrees. You don't find this interesting?

Tony

 

Dr. Bear:
“It seems as if Malawi has indeed accredited Columbia Commonwealth, for whatever reason.”

Timmy: Dr. Bear, do you have better INFORMATION ABOUT THIS? or are you simply going by what was on CCWU web page? I was told that the business of accreditation of colleges and Universities belongs to the Ministry of education of the land. Regardless of how many Govt. official signed what….
I concurred with Ike, unless we have new and better informations; it is sill too early to Suggest proper accreditation of CCWU by the Govt. of Malawi.


Earon I am glad to see that you and the alumni group are taking my advice after all i.e. apply enough pressure on Dr. Carr to tell you what time it is. You said He is out of the Country would you know if Malawi is on his list? Just curious.

Timmy “THE TIME BOMB DETONATOR”

 

Whether or not they manage to get/borrow/steal/buy accreditation, I seriously doubt that these schools will suddenly rise to the level of a serious program. When I was in the hiring business, and someone presented a degree from a school of which I was unfamiliar, I would always send for a copy of their transcript and a catalog. I would certainly expect a graduate school to do the same for a prospective student. Unless they are dummying up the transcripts as well, the degree alone won't do much.

Wes

 

Metropolitan Los Angeles population 9,519,338 NO Malawi IS a small country!

 

Maybe, probably not. What is interesting, to me at least, is the potential is there to receive a degree that will possibly be looked upon as better than a DETC degree. For instance, if it can appraised by an evaluator as being comparable to US RA it could possibly qualify for professional licensure, something that a NA degree usually doesn't qualify you for. For this discussion the quality of the school is not really important. Is this good? No, but I find it quite interesting.

Tony

 

And:
1. Take away the ability to read from half of them.
2. Give aids to 16% of them. (roughly 1.5 million people)
3. Give them each $500 a year as a total income.
4. Give them each 37 years to live.
5. Require 98% of them to work in subsistence agriculture, leaving roughly 180,000 to manage the country, serve in the military, the police, the shop keepers, the physicians and other social services, and lastly, the educational system.

Now, does this sound like a place that would be an appropriate venue to accredit a foreign college?

Wes

 

NOPE! Then I was not real thrilled when they were playing with the Tribal accreditation either.

 

Trying to find a decent DL program that is both inexpensive and designed to be completed in a reasonable amount of time is like trying to separate the wheat from the chaff when there are four kernels of wheat in a warehouse full of chaff. These programs do nothing to help the process.

Wes

 

You talk about "comparable to US RA" in one sentence, then in the very next sentence you say "for this discussion the quality of the school is not really important."

Isn't that a contradiction?

Let me ask you the question that I put to North: If professional bodies require RA or its equivalent for licensure, why do you suppose that they do that?

What is the purpose of accreditation? What is accreditation supposed to be telling us?

 

NOPE! Then I was not real thrilled when they were playing with the Tribal accreditation either.

 

You read my whole post, didn't you? My point was that it was interesting that this avenue might be a loophole in the process. I never stated I agreed that it should be. In fact I do not. The fact that one might get the qualification shows utility. If someone has knowledge gained through other means, or uses this degree process to gain the requisite knowledge, they may well have earned the degree. The same could be said regarding Natl. accred. or non-accred. degrees. However, the natl. accred. degree will not qualify you for licensure.

Tony