need background check on "american behavioral studies institute" in santa ana,ca....

any problems in the past, fraud, fake etc..... thx.

[url]http://www.behavioral-studies.org/[/URL]

 

Does this statement raise any red flags??

ABSI operates under the governance of the Bureau of Private Postsecondary Education. Approximately 33 years ago the State Department of Education established approved schools to operate within California. In the California Education Code, it is mandated that approved colleges be equal to colleges and universities accredited by various federally recognized entities.

Cheers,

George

 

nope. seems correct.thats true about calif...

thats all i have to say. thx.

 

This statement was true until around 1980. The California Education Code or regulations currently contain no such statement.

 

Approved vs. Accredited in CA

Given the line of thought for this thread, I would like to ask (of whom who knows this), how are CA Approved degrees treated in CA in relationship to regionally and nationally accredited degrees in the post 1980 academic-professional-and-"regular" world of California?

Kenneth K. A.

 

Re: Approved vs. Accredited in CA

I'm certainly not an authority on this, but I do live in California and follow education.

Several months ago I counted 116 CA-approved universities, colleges and institutes that offer doctorates. I just went to WASC's website (wascweb.org) and counted 74 schools in California that are regionally accredited to offer doctorates. Add in a few programs from other regions (Nova, Touro) and you get perhaps 80. So the majority of the schools in California that offer doctorates are CA-approved (and not otherwise accredited).

OK, so how are they perceived here?

The short answer is that they aren't perceived at all. You rarely hear about them. They never come up in conversation and most Californians probably don't even know that they exist. I live about a mile from one of them, but I have never heard anyone speak of it, even in its home town. Yet UC, the local CSUs and so on are household names. The CA-approved schools are non-entities in California.

I'd say that the most striking thing about the CA-approved universities is how UN-striking they are. If they have reputations at all, it usually seems to be among communities, whether immigrant, religious, alternative-therapy or political-activist, that are already familiar with the school and where graduating from an alternative school probably carries less stigma than in more mainstream circles.

So my opinion is that degrees from these schools will be most useful not in the academic, professional and 'regular' communities, but in specialized niche markets of some kind.

 

people with awesome degrees are attending these schools.......

in my short investigation, persons with b.a. and m.a. from awesome schools - usc, uc, stanford, harvard, lawyers changing careers to therapy are getting their advanced degrees from these schools. check them out you'll be amazed. some even are instructors and presidents of these "approved schools". i know laywer in ca., with great practice that wants to be a marriage counselor and is attending an approved school. why ? if you got a ba from usc why go to an approved school ??? i think its about money maybe. you figure, usc grad still in debt or just got over huge bill and wants something cheaper.

 

one more thing...

county of riverside, santa barbara and orange will accept approved school degrees in psychology and marriage therapy. of course, after a period of time you'll need to be lic., by the state. i wonder why the county allows this ? accredited and approved graduates are given the same salary. one spent more on his degree and time than the other. i think as one of the replies mentioned there are a bunch of these schools the county gives breaks ??. fair...unfair ???

 

Re: Re: Approved vs. Accredited in CA

I can echo this sentiment. When I was a poor college student at Chapman College (now University) in Orange, CA, I lived just down the road from California Coast University. On the same street, actually. I passed it literally hundreds of times as did many, many other people.

I never once heard anyone in Orange County in the five years that I lived there actually mention that school.



Tom Nixon

 

California schools

I studied accupuncture briefly at Samra University and noticed that a lot of the instructors had degrees from a place called Royers (not sure of spelling) it seemed to be a rubber stamp type of procedure for some excellent instrutors who were trained oversees (China) and just needed a "degree" to satisfy some requirement.

I aloso found a "therapist" practicing localy with a degree from
American college of send us $199 and we will send you a phd
fame.

 

Interesting

Very interesting responses. On the whole, then, CA Approved institutions are not regarded with dread in CA now, as I seem to gather from the discourse offered here.

Kenneth K. A.

 

Stay away from absi

I Have to leave to help a new baby make her/his entrance into the world.
I will write a lengthly reply tomorrow.
I went to ABSI for 2 long. boarding and first grade level classes. It is a non acreditated school, except for church schools---investigate the acrediating(?) agencies. A graduate can license in California, but NO other state, can not teach, or use the degree. NOT ALL TEACHERS are license.
I recommend The Chicago School of Professional Psychology. I graduated from the Irvine campus when it was California Graduate Institute. GREAT instructors. Famous school in the midwest and East. Many awards, including the President's honor society. Education and reputition compaires to ivy league schools.
Catch me tomorrow after I catch the baby

 

American Behavioral Studies Institute

I am a graduate from ABSI and I believe I am doing well.
I am licensed in both California and Colorado s a clinical psychologist. I am also a California Q.M.E. I currently own three business locations and I am working out of 10 in total. My company has contracts with the military, private industry, and other government agencies. The VA is the only entity who has had a heart attack about APA accreditation but that was a recent situation created in D.C. and it seems to have the majority of California at a standstill because there are so few APA school and internship providers out here.
ABSI was run by Raylene D. Goltra, who, if she is still alive is probably in her late 80's or 90's right now. She had a variety of health problems and to my understanding, she was unable to continue running the school and the people after her weren't so good at it either. The school closed I think in 2003. Records were transferred to the California Board of Education when Gov. Schwarzenneger [hope I spelled it right] did away with the BPPVE. Bureau for Private Post Secondary Vocational Education. When he did that he screwed it up for millions of providers [multi-specialty] in California. After the Schwarzenneger debacle, either right before he left office or soon after, a new bureau was created to fix this drama. BPPE. Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education. Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education However, they were not designed to fix the Schwarzenneger debacle. They were designed to pick up and start anew.
I graduated in 1997. Back then accreditation cost $140,000.00 just to be considered to join and be evaluated for their little gold seal. ABSI started the process with WASC [which takes quite some time] but closed down before the process was complete. The curriculum exceeded the minimum requirements for the State of California in their programs. The school prided itself on that.
What took down the school was the battle with CGI [ California Graduate Institute. ]
Dr. Goltra was a professor there. She and half the other professors in the mid 1990's did not agree with the school's management policies and started their own school. At first it was a grass roots effort, however, 'ABSI was created with half of CGI's professors and they took 1/2 of CGI's students with them. I was one of them.
Fast forward... Years later CGI turns into Chicago School. The Chicago School promised their graduates that they would be APA and WASC accredited by the time they graduated, or, that they would be able to hold status for those who were graduating. That did not happen. To my understanding, the student population at Chicago School [only the CGI campus] sued, and are probably still in the legal process of suing them for making false promises. Factors of the law suit involve each student demanding payment for lost time. [Going to another school, relearning curriculum, lost time with internships, and money they believe they would have been receiving by now as licensed providers.] The information I got regarding this law suit is second hand and I take it with a grain of salt. HOWEVER, I do find it interesting that Chicago School changed their public presence and backed down from the accreditation promises. [Timing is everything.]
As for ABSI, it was a good school. It could have been great. For a private school it was phenomenal! I did notice that students who originally came from public schools were having a hard time integrating. I've spent most of my life in private schools so this was nothing new for me.
Overall, it was a great school, it got me where I am today, and I am VERY thankful.

 

I personally seen this statement on official publications in California in the 1990's.
The 1990 catalog of CA colleges in the Public library has this official statement.

Many Approved Universities in the 90's had recognition of the CA state boards for Psychology, MFCC and Psychologist licensing.

Some licensing boards only accepted degrees from Professionally Accredited programs.

This changed in late 90's and in to 2000's.

I personally recommend to attend RA school.

 

American Behavioral Studies Institute was a highly ranked private school that merged with another university when debt overcame the organization in the early 2000s. The educational quality was unsurpassed - even by the large public institutions. The school produced many qualified psychologists who have contributed to important mental health interests and several are note-worthy public figures.

 

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This statement would carry more weight if you provided some evidence.

 

This is a 16-year-old thread that's suddenly been revived.

"Highly ranked" by whom?

Based on what measure of "educational quality"?

I'm more inclined to believe that one. This was apparently one of those California state-approved psych-schools that was license-qualifying in its day. So there are probably some practicing clinical psychologists out there who graduated from this thing.

Who?

 

https://www.drjillmurray.com/about

 

Another one...

https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicki-pike-0a57717/

 

I didn't spend much time on her site but I did not see a list of her credentials anywhere. I do not consider appearances on Dr. Phil to count for much. Even if she's great, she is only one person. One. But I don't want to be totally negative. Maybe once upon a time this school was a good thing. Or at least a legal thing that could offer real degrees. That's OK. But what is it now? Anything?