Many online classes are way too easy. (not a joke, sorry)

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by DegreeDazed, Apr 14, 2012.

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  1. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Dude, you are on fire tonight.
     
  2. edwardlynch

    edwardlynch New Member

    I am not sure about online courses because I never try it yet, but I am interested on it what can I say is that getting A may be is not that hard but inserting the knowledge you learn in your work or in a situation is much more important than getting a good grade. What is the point of getting high grades if you can't apply it in the real work... or in any application...
     
  3. GeeBee

    GeeBee Member

    That seems likely.

    I've taken several classes that seemed "much too easy" to me, but I could see on the class message boards that many of my classmates were struggling. Being an older student with a lot of real-world experience does seem to make school easier, at least in some classes.
     
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  4. GeeBee

    GeeBee Member

    Oh, well that explains it, then. If you had said that in the first place, it would have saved a lot of trouble.
     
  5. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    That is an interesting assertion, although I imagine that making a blanket statement about every liberal arts program at all schools is a bit of an overgeneralization. My short stent at NCU supports what you are saying though. I found that my statistics and my finance class required a great deal of study to survive. However, my conflict resolution class, which was more of a liberal arts endeavor, was a cakewalk and an easy A.
     
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  6. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    WOW. I must say, I beg to differ with the OP on this. My current Macroeconomics class is KILLING me. And no, Im not an idiot or stupid or whatever. My previous online college wasnt the greatest, so you know what I did? I held MYSELF accountable and pushed MYSELF to do more than was required so that I knew I was really learning and getting a quality education. I left that school with a very good gpa, but I knew I had earned it. I transferred to my current online university and HOLY CRAP these classes are tough!!! But I love it. Im really using my brain and stretching my intellectual muscles. So no, not all online schools are a joke or a scam, and not all online classes are easy. At the end of the day, you get out of online classes what you put in. By short cutting your way through classes, you're hurting yourself because you wont really know the lessons and information. Instead of bragging that you found a way to "beat" the grading system, why not spend that time and energy actually pushing yourself to work harder and do more so you can get the very most you can out of your education.
     
  7. edwardlynch

    edwardlynch New Member

    So you are saying that online schools are not good and they are just after for the money? If that is the case then online schools are not to be trusted.. But I read some article that some of the online school are good in teaching their student, they treat them as like a real student in a regular school so I'm in confusion right now whether to trust online schools or not and if I will go to online school to get certificate for my IT career.
     
  8. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    You just have to do your research about the school, the program, and what you want from it. Look at its reputation, the cost, and wether the degree will hold any weight down the road. MANY well known schools such as USC, FSU, TSU, ETSU, OSU, ASU, etc... have lots of fully online programs. Yes, there are some not so good online schools. But then, there's also some not so great b & m schools, too. So just do your research and go with your gut. At the end of the day, as long as you're happy and the program meets your needs, then you should be ok.
     
  9. DxD=D^2

    DxD=D^2 Member

    I believe the fact we must remember is that these college institutions all must be accredited in order for your degree to hold weight. There is a standard that the six (regional) accreditation agencies hold institutes to. If the colleges do not meet this standard, they loose their weight and value.

    There are a lot of opinions that discuss which colleges are best. Whether it's a B&M college, online college or a hybrid each server a purpose to each student. Every student learns and develops in different ways, online fits others better than a B&M and visa versa. I have done both online and B&M. The majority of my Undergrad was at my community college (non-online class setting) and I felt those courses were very easy. I am now doing the rest of my undergrad online and I find that there are certain courses that are more challenging than others. Yet, I do not see a major difference from each setting... they both have their challenging moments.

    The bottom line is that if one can get away with an "A" by scanning and sight reading (not in the musical way), that is their prerogative, but they eventually will suffer. When you invest in yourself and not cut corners, you reap greater benefits.

    To each their own, and the lack thereof.
     
  10. WarChild

    WarChild New Member

    Dear Degree Dazed,

    I understand that you are able to pick out differences in curriculum among various programs. In my experience, I believe that in educating oneself you, "Get out of it what you put into it." This being stated, we all have decisions to make as consumers as far as how we apply yourself to attain education, move towards career goals, and navigate education in relation to some sort of professional license requirements if applicable. I did my BA online and am presently working on my MA online and have nothing but gratitude for the opportunity to do so.

    Once you leave the realm of academia you learn that if you do what is expected you can survive, but if you do more you will thrive. Best wishes and apply yourself to the best of your abilities as we all have limited time to do so. The "Stunts" you pull in an online program may not be a good habit to start doing as they will ripple in future endeavors and do not impress anyone.

    Also, if the program is accredited and meets requirements for interning etc. then the college in question is offering a suitable product and service which should correlate with your idea of career end game.

    You can have skill but not the will,
    J
     
  11. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    Don't you love it when a first-time poster necromances a thread that has seen no action in over four years in order to "wax philosophic?"

    I'm going back to sleep. :ponder:
     
  12. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Dear WarChild:

    Tell Ian and the boys I said "hi" while they dance the days and nights away.
     
  14. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    But only after he powders his face and paints on a smile.:fing02:
     
  15. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

  16. apriltrainer

    apriltrainer New Member

    What is dead may never die - quote from a Drowned God Priest

    Since this thread has been resurrected whether by R'hollor or a newbie, I might as well contribute.

    I WISH my current online course was easy. Or perhaps I am just an idiot. Every week a paper is due, not to mention discussion posts. First week we had to write a research proposal. I was thinking, "WTF???"

    With software to check for plagairism, no way one can get away with what the OP did long ago in 2012 (was that when this thread was started)? We have to do the work. If anything I think my course would be easier to learn in person. Anyways, off to read about construct validity and finish my paper on methodology and data analysis...UGH....
     
  17. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Unless I'm misreading the OP wasn't plagiarizing but was quickly scanning a book, finding a topic (likely something that was in bold fontface) and writing a quickie paper. This works in some online courses. And some people are better at it than others.

    There were papers I wrote at Scranton that I spent no more than a half hour on. There were papers that I wrote for CTU that took me five or more hours. There were also times when those times were reversed.

    I had one course at UMT that was damn near impossible. No matter how much effort I put in I couldn't break past the "B" mark and there were a few times when I became genuinely concerned that my grade in the course would be below that.

    In short, online courses are a lot like in-person courses; some are easier than others. It depends upon the instructor. It depends upon the course. My career planning course at CTU was pretty easy and didn't require much work, in my opinion. Then again I skipped 3/4 of Freshman seminar (a one credit pass/fail) at Scranton and received the "pass" I needed to progress. I also found that some subjects did not transfer well, for me, to online learning. History was probably the most obvious. I learn history in person very well. Online? Not so much. But I do better at business courses online than in person.

    It's almost like people are complex beings or something.
     
  18. Lagu88

    Lagu88 Member

    I used to think like that, online or distant learning are far less inferior, until I attend my postgrad full time at my local university. Heheh, I assume the programming level from bachelor degree shld covers a lot to the level learners are able to write their own software. End up, I am patching up all their holes in group projects, using my programming skills acquired from my hobby and associate degree (in my country, that is diploma level).

    Well, I do find that the technical master degree I studied full time is manageable, just that the project for each coursework somehow requires the development of a prototype system, which is, you know, more on the time-consuming side then difficulty. The skills I acquired from my online MBA certainly helps me in writing my technical master thesis. The MBA I completed, however, has higher level classmates who are already in managerial positions, unlike my full time technical degree who are people just new to the technical field (maybe I should not compare like this because that is MBA).

    So, subjective.
     
  19. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    The flaw in the OP's post is that he hadn't attended enough programs to have an adequate sample size in order to make the judgement he has anything more than a personal opinion. Besides, even if he had the position of subjectivity would still bring the conclusion into question. It's a fallacy argument so it lacks merit beyond his very limited personal experience.

    I've taken programs at a number of schools over the years, ground-based and online. I can think of at least one online program where my experience was similar to the one he pointed out, and I so got away from that program quickly. I can think of a ground-based program that was the same low-quality. I can also think of other online programs where the work was very difficult and lots of it, and scanning books was a sure way to fail especially since the courses all required essays so you needed to know the material.

    Even given my substantial experience, I could make all kinds of conclusions about my personal experiences with online and ground-based education, but at the end of the day the reality is that each school differs in quality regardless of the delivery format, and that should just be common sense gained from living and breathing, understanding that quality varies with all things.

    To make a judgement of all schools based on delivery format alone is too fallacious to be worth debate.
     
  20. NYC1808

    NYC1808 New Member

    Not an "online thing"

    I've been in plenty of "on ground" classes that have also been a joke. Many, actually.
     

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