South Africa a new PhD degree mill?

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by ryoder, Mar 16, 2012.

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  1. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Louis, through which university are you doing your DCom?
     
  2. louisnguyen27

    louisnguyen27 New Member

    Steve, it is UNISA.
     
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Cool. Forgive me, but have you ever posted a comprehensive account here of how you got set up with them? It seems a lot of people are interested in them for postgraduate study but find it difficult to get going there. If you haven't done so (or if you have and can point me to it), I'd be interested!
     
  4. louisnguyen27

    louisnguyen27 New Member

    Sure, I will start another topic about how I came to know this forum and UNISA. My story began with an unaccredited doctorate degree so I am still on the way to conquer this education level.
     
  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I looked into this bridge few times before. First, you are required to have a non business doctorate from a school that grants AACSB doctorates or need to have experience teaching at AACSB accredited school and a non business doctorate. One school considered a business doctorate if it was from a different field of the intended post doc bridge.

    Few concerns about this program. There is no guarantee that the target employer will honor this certificate. My guess is that a PhD from a good AACSB school would trump this certificate any time.

    The certificate is not a degree but training to become a professor. You can earn the same training if you do post doc research training at a AACSB accredited school.

    The real qualifier is not the certificate itself but the research you do, if you publish in business journals and hold a PhD from a good school, the certificate is really not required.
     
  6. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Okydd, I'm surprised about your post. You have always been respectful in this forum.

    I must say that the discussion seems to be bias against SA but we have also (I include myself) have been very critical of some schools (including NCU and UoP) and nobody accussed me of being condescent or moron.

    If someone wants to undermine a particular school or country, we can always use logic to argue a point.

    SA is far from being a "Degree factory", the same article shows how SA is far behind doctorate production compared to other countries.

    In the forum, we tend to be obsessed about doctorates but most of the real world can care less about this type of degrees.

    If more people get PhDs in SA, USA, Australia or any other country, I don't think is a bad thing as more people are using their time for something positive instead of using it for useless things such as watching TV, playing pool, etc.
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Okydd, I'm surprised about your post. You have always been respectful in this forum.

    I must say that the discussion seems to be bias against SA but we have also (I include myself) have been very critical of some schools (including NCU and UoP) and nobody accussed me of being condescent or moron.

    If someone wants to undermine a particular school or country, we can always use logic to argue a point.

    SA is far from being a "Degree factory", the same article shows how SA is far behind doctorate production compared to other countries.

    In the forum, we tend to be obsessed about doctorates but most of the real world can care less about this type of degrees.

    If more people get PhDs in SA, USA, Australia or any other country, I don't think is a bad thing as more people are using their time for something positive instead of using it for useless things such as watching TV, playing pool, etc.
     
  8. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Are you putting down people who play pool or watch TV? Huh?
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Ok, you got me there. What about people that use their time to smoke drugs? Can we say that pursuing a PhD is better than smoking pot?
     
  10. Lukeness

    Lukeness Member

    Because a these is required at a masters level in SA, most people who apply to complete a Phd already have a very good idea what they are getting into. It was only not be easy to have your proposal accepted if it didn't pass proper scrutiny. So I believe there might be a high success rate, but only because so few people actually get that far in the first place.
     
  11. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Meh, it's about the same thing. PoT, PhD, what's the difference?
     
  12. louisnguyen27

    louisnguyen27 New Member

    It is true. I got this experience with my M Phil. at Stellenbosch University. Some of my friends did not graduate ontime just because of quality of the proposals and they had to submit again and again. Prof. also remarked at the begining if a proposal could be developed further to a PhD research or not. I can not go further with at SUN because I don't really work in the industrial area of my research proposal. SUN consulted me that I would face up to the risks with low rates of success in the PhD program.

    No diffrence, I smoke PoT while doing PhD.
     
  13. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    SurfDoctor 2012!!!
     

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