NationsU...Transfer Credits

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  1. DailyNews

    DailyNews New Member

    ok folks! Last NationsU Question here, as I have seen quite a few on this site. I have come to the conclusion that out of all the schools listed that are unaccredited, Nations seems to be on the right track although it may take a while.
    What I wanted to know is this, does anyone here know of any Nationally and/or regionally accredited schools that will currently accept a NationsU Master's degree into a Doctorate program?? Or a Bachelor's into a Master's? If so, who???

    Much Obliged!!
     
  2. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    If I recall correctly there were three people posting on one or two of the discussions boards that were accepted into Liberty University based on their NU degrees and were doing well academically and felt their NationsU experience prepared them. I believe they were working on Masters degrees.
     
  3. AdjunctInstructor

    AdjunctInstructor New Member

    Hello DailyNews,

    I graduated from NationsUniversity with the BRS/MRS degrees. I used the the BRS for probationary admission to Liberty University's seminary I graduated with the M.A. in 15 months with a 3.70 GPA. Then applied to the Ed.S. program. I have a 4.00 GPA so far at the doctoral level. Moreover, I believe every NU alumnus has a 3.50 GPA or better. However, LU will not accept NU's graduate degrees. Although I have been told that NU's M.Div. graduates would be considered for admission to LU's D.Min. but was told to not count on it being approved. While NU's degrees are very good content wise they still need to develop a more rigorous graduate writing requirement. In fact, NationsU is working on such a requirement. I am moving on to the Ed.D. degree next year. In my honest opinion NationsUniversity is RA equivalent in course content-- but needs to require students to learn and present graduate level academic writing skills. Once that is accomplished I would rate NU as being equivalent to one of the better nationally accredited schools. Again, LU will consider you for probationary admission to graduate studies with NU's BRS degree. (I am 1/2 done with the Ed.S-just made candidacy status.) The majority of my Ed.S. coursework has been more demanding and rigorousness than was my masters level coursework! Good luck and God bless you!
     
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  4. potpourri

    potpourri New Member

    How does one explain when they have an unaccredited Bachelor's degree and when an employer is looking at your credentials you essentially have no undergraduate courses e.g., english, math, and science?

    A student would only be able to technically list their Master's and Doctorate because these were awarded at the graduate level at a regionally accredited school. Therefore, you essentially have no Bachelor's degree or undergraduate degree. It just makes it hard for me to believe that an employer is going to accept this when the Bachelor's degree is not accredited whatsoever.
     
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  5. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I would say it is not a matter of not listing it (since it is a legit school) but saying that it is unaccredited, working on accreditation. Church of Christ affiliated and acceptable for admission to XYZ Regionally accredited school where you earned your Masters and Doctorate.

    All schools start out unaccredited and if you have that many degrees the focus in the position you are applying for is the Masters or doctorate. The point is simply to be honest. Besides, with RA Masters and doctorate they are not likely to ask much about the undergraduate (unless you do not list it).

    What I would NOT list are diploma mills since there is no way to explain those.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    HWU - in Edinburgh admits students in to MBA program without having bachelors degree, they make you take additional two pre-MBA classes.

    I seen people with HWU MBA without Hon or BS degrees.

    In some countries one can enter professional degree program directly after the high school, these are 5 year programs and people will call you Doctor after these .
    Veterinary Medicine and other professions as well. SO the only degree you list after your name is DVM.
    In my case its a Specialist Degree , it is evaluated in USA by NACES members (WES) as Masters in Computer Science wile ECE evaluated it as Masters in Computer Engineering Technology :).

    I have to at times write that this is a combines degree program that BS and MS. But the evaluation report just call it MS.
     
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  7. AdjunctInstructor

    AdjunctInstructor New Member

    potpourri,

    I had a regionally accredited associate degree, pre- engineering as well as my junior year of civil engineering at Oregon State University-Corvallis all B& M. So math and English and general education requirements were not lacking. Interestingly, Liberty University did not require my degree or OSU transcript. Thus, I was fully admitted with NU's BRS degree. My associate degree required calculus 1 and 2 and a full year of calculus based Physics. So I had a substantial 3 years of undergraduate studies before finishing NU's BRS degree.
     
  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Plenty of people list unaccredited credentials, in most states without any sort of notice. You also say "regionally accredited", forgetting the entire sphere of national accreditation.

    No, it does not mean he essentially has no Bachelor's degree. It means he has one from Nations University.

    -=Steve=-
     
  9. Hotdillon

    Hotdillon New Member

    What about Andersonville Theological Seminary? They seem pretty legit for a non-accredited school? Anyone ever attend there? You can get NCCA certified (not a state license) with a Master's through them!! Anybody here know much about them??
     
  10. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I believe Steve Levicoff listed NCCA as a certification mill (if it is the one run by Arno who does not have an accredited doctorate). If Andersonville is associated with NCCA, that may not be a good sign.

    Update: NCCA is accredited by...drum roll please.......the Accrediting Commissional International. http://www.pastoral-counseling-center.org/Christian-Counseling-Degree-Accreditation.htm ACI has been called an accreditation mill. It immediately brings to mind its prior incarnation involved in the FBI sting. The head of ACI called Dr. Bear a liar when he said ACI offered automatic accreditation to schools when the prior incarnation shut down. But Dr. B., produced a copy of the letter and posted it. ACI association for NCCA and Andersonville is not a good sign (does not make for credibility).
     
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  11. potpourri

    potpourri New Member

    AdjunctInstructor

    potpourri,

    I had a regionally accredited associate degree, pre- engineering as well as my junior year of civil engineering at Oregon State University-Corvallis all B& M. So math and English and general education requirements were not lacking. Interestingly, Liberty University did not require my degree or OSU transcript. Thus, I was fully admitted with NU's BRS degree. My associate degree required calculus 1 and 2 and a full year of calculus based Physics. So I had a substantial 3 years of undergraduate studies before finishing NU's BRS degree.

    Reply to AdjunctInstructor

    You phrased your answer as "I had a regionally accredited associate degree - pre-enginerring." It wouldn't be that you had, but rather I have an associates degree in pre-enginerring. If so, why don't you list that under your signature with your Liberty University ones?

    I was simply saying that if a person were to be admitted into a graduate program and have no undergraduate credits such as english, math, and science that it would seem that this would pose as an issue. I'm also wondering what other schools would do if a student has an accredited Master's degree, but no accredited undergraduate degree (Associates or Bachelors)?

    I had a friend that had a similar situation that occurred. They were able to have a school accept their non-accredited Bachelor's degree into a graduate program, but they asked me what I thought about whether it would be a problem. In my view it would cause some red flags so I said that if I were in that situation I would do the Master's courses to lead toward a Master's degree, but also get your undergraduate degree too.

    In other words, you have a student that completes a Master's degree that could be considered (36-45 credits or more) depending upon which you go with. On average most are around 36 credits required. But there would be no undergraduate degree to me that would seem to raise red flags and although one could say they have a Master's degree, they have no undergraduate degree. Yes, they could mention an unaccredited one, but it would be essentially as if they didn't have any undergraduate degree since the degree isn't accredited.

    I don't know if I'm making sense, but just seems like there would be too many red flags that would come up in my opinion.
     
  12. AdjunctInstructor

    AdjunctInstructor New Member

    Potpourri

    "I had a friend that had a similar situation that occurred. They were able to have a school accept their non-accredited Bachelor's degree into a graduate program, but they asked me what I thought about whether it would be a problem. In my view it would cause some red flags so I said that if I were in that situation I would do the Master's courses to lead toward a Master's degree, but also get your undergraduate degree too.

    Perhaps you could have wrote: " I have a friend"
     
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  13. major56

    major56 Active Member

    Doesn’t /didn’t David Lipscomb University also allow some sort of conditional admission status to NU graduates?
     
  14. AdjunctInstructor

    AdjunctInstructor New Member

    Indeed they did. I applied to both Lipscomb University and Liberty University for admission, using the BRS from NationsUniversity, both applications were successful. It is my understanding Lipscomb will continue to consider NU degree holders for conditional/ probationary admission... on an individual bases.
     
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  15. Hotdillon

    Hotdillon New Member

    AdjunctInstructor, I noticed that you have a MRS from Nations and an MS from Liberty. If Nations was DETC accredited, would you have had to go to Liberty for your Masters or could you have been admitted into the ED.S program straight from Nations???
     
  16. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    I did not take the time to read all the post on this thread so sorry if I repeat info already given. I too attended Nations U. I spent a great deal of time looking into who will accept there BRS. I found tons of schools that would all RA. Not one NA(DETC) only would take them. Global University, Liberty are sure things if you have a good GPA. A lot of Staff at Global have been working with Nations for sometime. The good thing about Global is they are RA and very cheap!
     
  17. AdjunctInstructor

    AdjunctInstructor New Member

    Hotdillion,

    That is a tough call. It is my opinion that if a person had the required minimum 3.00 GPA in their Master's degree, I believe a person would be allowed. However, their admission to the Ed.S. may be scrutinized in that having no prior education majored degree and a DETC degree LU may be a bit more selective--just my assumption.
     
  18. cmin

    cmin New Member

    Nationsuniversity is well accepted by Luther rice university. I checked with them and the admissions officer affirmed acceptance.. If you care,I can send you an attached copy of my correspondence with LRU. Interest you to know LRU is RA!
     

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