Farewell degreeinfo but not goodbye..:-)

Avoid beginning sentences with a conjunction, such as and, as it serves neither as a coordinating nor subordinating conjunction in your sentence.

 

What's that familiar smell?

Dave Wagner is diligently marking his territory.

 

OK, there's somebody's research topic.

 

David (Lady),

Congratulations, you are truly a high-achiever.

There's a smell of jealousy in several of the last posts, which I'm sure you are self-assured enough to ignore.

I do agree you should stick around. I'm really interested in hearing how you develop Aspen as a business.

All the best,

Dave C.

 

If I was writing for journal publication I would agree: don't begin a sentence using a conjunction. But your caution is to "avoid" using conjunctions, it ain't illegal to use them. I took stylistic license. Beginning a sentence with a conjunction is a way of adding emphasis. Writers far more gifted than I do it all the time.

The artful blending of formal and informal styles makes for a more interesting read. Of course there are instances where certain prohibitions must be honored, but writing on message boards ain't one of them.

 

True dat...

 

Dr. Lady, Keep us posted your effort on getting AACSB Accreditation or RA?

Dr. Lady, Keep us posted of any efforts you take on getting AACSB Accreditation or RA?

Either one which can be achieved faster would bring Aspen to the Next level. Aspen is already way ahead of most RA Universities that offer courses on line.

And we love to see Aspen getting there someday and that will be one of your personal achievements.

 

My 2 cents.

Most who join Aspen University is already someone in the industry with a track record and their motive is seeking knowledge to advance their career.

DETC will not be the only problem for someone who is no one and seeking a job in public school system.

 

Can you name one public school system (k-12) in the United States that accepts a DETC Bachelors in Education for certification to teach? Can you imagine if a young student pursued a DETC Bachelors or a DETC Masters in education -- only to find out at the end of the road that it's worthless as a teaching certificate? Caveat Emptor.

 

Wouldn't a DETC education program be able to answer this?

 

I accept, in part. This is from Ventura College in California (I used to live across the street and had several exams proctored there). Here's the link to information about employment:
https://jobs.vcccd.edu/applicants/jsp/shared/frameset/Frameset.jsp?time=1248123982962

<snip> (emphasis added):
§53406. Requirement for Accredited Degrees and Units; Definition of Accredited Institution.
All degrees and units used to satisfy minimum qualifications shall be from accredited institutions, unless otherwise specified in this Article.
For purposes of this Subchapter, “accredited institution” shall mean a postsecondary institution accredited by an accreditation agency recognized by either the U.S. Department of Education or the Council on Postsecondary Accreditation. It shall not mean an institution “approved” by the California Department of Education or by the California Council for Private Postsecondary and Vocational Education.
<snip end>

At the California community college level there is wiggle room for terminal degree requirements when teaching there. If you read the entire document you will see they do allow flexibility in many academic disciplines. I had a friend who taught I.T. classes at Ventura College and he had no college degree -- but he did have the requisite experience.

Applicable only for California. Your mileage may vary.

I'm just sayin' .......

 

Sorry. You are wrong. Very wrong.

From Florida website:

http://www.fldoe.org/edcert/step1.asp

see the "Submitting Official Transcripts"

Now try the USDE website at:

http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/

or

http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Agencies.aspx

Using the U.S. Department of Education Database of Accredited Postsecondary Institutions and Programs we find:

Aspen University is listed at the US Dept of Education website as accredited:

So simple.

Congrats Dr Lady !

 

I dont' think so. You cannot show one school teacher in Florida (k-12) who got certification-to-teach with a DETC Bachelors degree in education.

Quite simple!

 

Are you suggesting that the public schools in Florida will ignore the Florida Dept. of Education's guidelines for teacher certification? Guess you do not live in Florida. Since I do not have access to every teacher's educational record I would suggest you should take a look at the teachers-teachers.com website. All of the Florida schools advertising are concerned with State certification, not where the degree came from. For example:

Sumter County School District mirrors the FDOE:

I have proven that people are eligible to teach in the State of Florida with a DETC degree. You are unable to rebut it. Do you really believe a school will turn down a Florida State certified teacher in a critical needs area just because the degree is DETC?

So simple.

 

Pretty sad to see a thread with an announcement from dlady-- and the congratulatory posts that followed-- deteriorate into an RA vs NA thread.

 

I agree. I dropped by after being away for awhile. I am thrilled that Dr. Lady received his promotion. Great news for all of us. But seeing misinformation being posted in an attempt to belittle his accomplishment cannot be ignored.

I said what needed to be said. Facts supported by links. Not idle speculation.

Again, congrats Dr. Lady and hope your program thrives !

 

Good to see you around again Carlos. About a year to a year and a half ago, I was discussing some NA isses over at Degreediscussion. A certain Doctor with a rapier wit made this comment "NA degree holders cannot teach at a community college! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!"

The one and only Dr. Bear posted California guidelines for CA CC teaching positions. He came to the same conclusion you came to. The guidelines do not restrict a NA degree holder from teaching. He was able to prove this beyond a reasonable doubt.

Having said that, I do find it in rather poor taste me again has chosen to start these NA vs RA arguments in this thread. Dr. Lady has proven over and over again that it is up to the person to excel in life. A mere piece of paper cannot magically make someone excel. All of us who have been around these types of threads for a while know that potential students are told of the NA RA issues. Nobody here tries to push a degree on anyone. In the end, everyone must make their choice in life. Degreeinfo is a website that students and potential students can count on for an honest opinion. I would hope everyone agrees with me on this.

Take it easy,

Abner

 

Well said Abner.


Sideman JD

 

As a point of clarification, the Northcentral shill was talking about NA education degrees leading to achieving a K-12 teaching credential, while I and others raised the point that California community colleges recruit adjunct teachers based on skill, so the NA degree could be an enhancement and not a disqualifier. And, yes, John Bear has repeatedly informed us all about this on at least two occasions that come to mind...

 

Yes, so true about California CCs. Another friend earned her MBA in CA and was automatically sent a credential to teach at the CC level, simply because she completed a master's degree -- a credential she didn't ask for and had no intention of using. I thought it quite a curious thing. It makes you wonder why they issue an automagic credential for CC teaching but not for primary or secondary schools.