why get a 2nd degree?

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  1. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    2Lt is, or was, used in the UK Army and Marines
     
  2. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    The Air Force, Marines, and the Army are the only branches of the U.S. military that use the rank 2nd lieutenant. Of those, only the Army uses 2LT to abbreviate 2nd lieutenant.

    BTW - "O-designations" refer to pay grade; not rank. O for officers, W for warrant officers, and E for enlisted.
     
  3. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Are you suggesting that rank and paygrade are ever separate? I was in the Navy for eight years and I never saw an O-1 who wasn't an Ensign.
     
  4. RobbCD

    RobbCD New Member

    Wait a second, I'm wrong about this. I remember that some enlisted members were, on occasion, instantly promoted by their command or "frocked" to the next rank and thier paygrade caught up with that new rank several weeks later. This was a function of a paperwork delay.

    I can only imagine that similar things happened with officers, although I wouldn't have any first hand knowledge of such a thing.

    For the most part, though, rank and pay grade were a "hand in hand" set of designations.
     
  5. PatsFan

    PatsFan New Member

    I seem to recall from my Navy days that the Navy abreviates captain as CAPT. and the other services CPT.
     
  6. airtorn

    airtorn Moderator

    There is the not-so-slight difference between a Captain in Navy and a Captain in the other branches.

    That might momentarily confuse/bewilder the nonmilitary types.
     
  7. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    There are actually three official abbreviations for "Captain", and the USMC and USAF seem to abbreviate it correctly :) :

    http://www.defenselink.mil/specials/insignias/officers.html

    As some have suggested already, the USN CAPT is an O6 or the equivalent of a "full" Colonel in the other services. The USCG follows the USN ranks.

    The USN and USCG Lieutenant (O3) seem to have the raw deal on rank titles , as s/he could be mistaken by civilians as the O1 or O2 of other services...

    Dave

    P.S. Learn the insignia on that web page and you will have hours of fun finding mistakes in movies and TV shows...
     
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  8. PhD2B

    PhD2B Dazed and Confused

    I didn't mean to open a can of worms here. ;)

    A person who is an O-1 is also an ensign or 2nd lieutenant depending on the branch of service. O-1 is the pay grade and ensign or 2nd lieutenant is the rank.
     
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  9. AGS

    AGS New Member

    if you have left over credit from somewhere

    if you have left over credits from somewhere , you can get another degree just for the sake of your own personal interest ....

    this is one of my backup plans...

    if i accumulate too many credits, i should use some of the remaining for a 2nd bachelors but on a personal interest.....
     
  10. 03310151

    03310151 Active Member

    Wow...

    Keep up with this topic and you might be able to get a 2nd degree in Military Science. I have two very related B.A.'s and the only reason was that I wanted to go deeper into Psychology at TESC.

    For me, and where I was at, it was interesting because I liked the subject. Career wise, it was worthless. I should have spent the time working on a Masters degree. Another 30 credits for a BA, and you only need 36 for most masters? Waste of time in my opinion.

    Nobody really cares if you have two BA's-maybe some academic snobs might-I have never seen a job description ask for 2 BA's.

    Get to work on the masters and forget about how your resume looks.

    Cory
     
  11. GBrown

    GBrown New Member

    Why a 2nd degree

    I am almost finished with my second B.S. My first B.S. was in professional aeronautics at Embry-Riddle - this degree is great if you plan to stay in aviation for your career. I earned an MBA from Touro Univ., and almost finished my PhD there. I opted for an advanced certificate in graduate studies in business. These degrees served their purpose in many ways. I used the knowledge gained to further my career. I was accepted into flight school, received some pretty good evaluations, and had a successful career in the Army. But, now it's time to move on.

    I'm about to retire from the Army as a helicopter pilot, but I don't want to fly as a civilian, I'd rather become a teacher. I thought about teaching business at the post-secondary level, but that's not appealing to me. I decided that I'd rather teach something for which I have more passion. So, I took a look at what fields are needed: science, mathematics, and special education. I have an aptitude for mathematics, so I researched the requirements to become a math teacher. Due to the "no child left behind" act, only the "most qualified" teachers are acceptable. To become "most qualified" you must have at least 30 U.G. SH in the subject area - in specific topics, too. Since I had to complete those 30 hours, I decided to apply them toward a second B.S. To apply for a teaching license, I will need to complete some additional schooling, which I will apply to an MAT (Master of Arts Teaching). I'm looking at WGU for that.

    So, career change may require a second B.S.

    Take care.
     
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  12. sentinel

    sentinel New Member

    This is part of the reason I am looking for upper-level undergraduate mathematics courses.
     

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