TUI sold

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  1. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    You may very well be correct.

    From the issue dated September 29, 2006

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    http://chronicle.com/weekly/v53/i06/06a04202.htm

     
  2. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    I sincerely hope not. For the sake of the military personnel and others attending TUI I hope they come out of this better than ever. It could happen and I believe we should at least give the new owners a chance. We do not need to give critics of DL anymore ammunition to use against us all.
     
  3. sulla

    sulla New Member

    Yes, lets hope so, Carlos. If TUI becomes better than before, it will help to improve the image of DL proprietary schools. So i'm crossing my fingers.
     
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  4. Susanna

    Susanna New Member

    No, I don't believe that! The Touro College scandal will pass just like any other scandal; the TUI sale is not related to the Touro College scandal. Summit Partners are not stupid, don't you think they fully explored the possibilities of an exodus? Equity firms of this size do not gamble. Look at the purchases and mergers this company has managed, they're winners. BUT... the student interest may not be at heart of this brokering firm. Student interests such as being affiliated with a non-profit or a jewish institution have been, so it seems, undermined.

    Susanna
     
  5. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    Like I said before, lets not have a rush to judgement here. This might be a positive development for DL!

    http://chronicle.com/news/article/2773/touro-college-will-sell-online-division-to-private-equity-fund

    Emphasis mine
     
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  6. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Wow, Touro University International sounds weird to me; but now change it into TUI University? I don't think the name is going anywhere. At least Touro University International sounds better than TUI University. It should be changed into Touro Western University, Touro California University, or Touro Pacific University.
     
  7. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I'd like to clarify that I think that the academics at TUI are just fine. It's just the name change that I find hard to gulp down. What does TUI in "TUI University" stand for? :eek:
     
  8. bing

    bing New Member

    This sort of thing is always in the back of my mind when I think about NCU. I don't think for a moment that this won't happen there. The old man and his wife get tired of running the place and they sell. Maybe it will sell to some company and be called NCU University. Gag!

    All I can say is that this TUI name must have been the result of a Six Sigma project...else, that's about it for creativity for that company. The best one has been taken up...Westernassociationofschoolsandcolleges University. The close seconds that sound so elegant and sophisticated would consist of Stratford College London, and Preston University. How about TUI Dubya University. That one sounds presidential.

    Bing
     
  9. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    me again: "What does TUI in "TUI University" stand for?"

    How about: The Unnamed Institution?
     
  10. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Ian correctly points out that SRI is "Stanford Research Institute" not "International."

    What I meant is that there is a fair amount of usage (albeit incorrect) of "SRI Institute," thus "Stanford Research Institute Institute."

    This, for instance, from a Dept. of Health & Human Services site:
    "SRI Institute, End-of-Project Evaluation Report, Lincoln Action Program, Demonstration Partnership Program, March 1993..."
     
  11. carlosb

    carlosb New Member

    IF (notice the big IF) I go for a DBA it will be at Nova Southeastern U. Talk about strange names! After Nova University merged with Southeastern University for Health Sciences the name Nova Southeastern was used.

    From wiki: "A nova is a cataclysmic nuclear explosion caused by the accretion of hydrogen onto the surface of a white dwarf star."

    So does the name of the school mean an exploding star in the southeastern sky? :)
     
  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Do it! Doooo iiiiiit! ;)

    Maybe it's because I lived in Fort Lauderdale, but that name didn't strike me as all that bad. Two institutions merged, and the name merged as well. If Nova had merged with Old Dominion University, and become Old Nova University, then that would have been weird (since in Latin, nova also means "new").

    Speaking of Virginia, when Mary Washington College took on graduate programs and thus changed to university status, the name of the place came up for review. There was a lot of controversy, in that some wanted to change the name away from Mary Washington (referring to George's mum) because while it had started as a women's college, it now admitted men, and men might not apply to an institution that was named for a women (nice reasoning, huh?). They tried all sorts of strange compromises, and ended up calling it University of Mary Washington. Um, huh? Why not "Mary Washington University"?

    Either way, "TUI University" has them all beat for unabashed stultiloquence.

    -=Steve=-
     
  13. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Two points:

    1. TC and TUI have separate computing systems and the involved individuals were terminated. There is no reason for students or the public to think less of either institution.

    2. The surprise for students was that the University was for sale last year, not that it has been sold now. There is good reason to view the purchase as validation of the value of school as an educational institution that will thrive long into the future. (By the way, several other DL schools don't have this sort of validation.)

    In a very real sense, the purchase of TUI is validation of the school.

    Dave
     
  14. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    I'm beginning to suspect you're employed by a Northcentral competitor, Dave.

    It sure doesn't help your intended image of a noble troll fighter when you initiate the trolling in a new topic yourself. Not that anyone else has ever believed your baseless personal attacks to be more than paranoid delusions.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I agree. These things do occasionally happen. It's how an institution responds when they do that is the real indicator.

    -=Steve=-
     
  16. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    I disagree. The problem is indicative of poor internal control. If an employee of a credit bureau modified your credit report to include a bankrupcy or various other fictitious items would you be willing to dismiss it as an inevitability that just has to be lived with? How is the security of student information and records any different?
     
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  17. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Exactly. The best I can glean from the original news story is that the perps were fired and that Touro College is cooperating or did cooperate with the investigation. At least, that is my understanding.

    Dave
     
  18. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Maybe I was a bit cavalier: yes, if it's a frequent problem, then I agree it's an indication of poor internal control. At the same time, however, if there are frequent problems, then that suggests that when problems arise they're not addressed. An institution that responds quickly and decisively, especially by changing their process to prevent future related issues, is unlikely to have a lot of problems.

    An example was the recent issue with there being a faculty member at AMU with milled credentials. Yes, in a perfect world there would have been some unassailable process of validation where no one like that ever slipped through the cracks. In the meantime, however, AMU responded definitively and immediately, and I was impressed.

    -=Steve=-
     
  19. AGS

    AGS New Member

    who will broker the deal ..?LOL


    lets say excelsior buys them off for less money ..
     
  20. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    I suppose that you are kidding... Still, it seems highly unlikely that the investment would go that direction.

    Dave
     

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