Is California Pacific University no more?

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by JNelson467, Jun 4, 2007.

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  1. JNelson467

    JNelson467 New Member

    I happened to be googling and ran across California Pacific University's info and when you visit their website

    www.cpu.edu

    It is no longer their school and aparently a website example for solicitation.

    Did the issues with California no longer offering approvals or something to that nature cause this long term California State Approved school to close?

    Found it a surprise as they have been in operation since I believe 1976

    Just curious
     
  2. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    It looks like a prototype web page was brought live by accident.

    Dave
     
  3. JNelson467

    JNelson467 New Member

    Hello Dave,

    Nice to hear from you. Perhaps they are seeking to change their website format and the template they are seeking became active?

    Could be...
     
  4. MacWithey

    MacWithey New Member

    It's baaack...

    It looks as though things are back to normal at California Pacific University's
    website, at:

    http://www.cpu.edu

    DM


    It looks as though the school never left, at least as of ~4:25 pm, EST.
     
  5. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Hi. I hope all is well with you. Yes, I believe a new website is in the works and somebody must have mixed up the DNS records... In any event, the old website seems to be back for now.

    Dave
     
  6. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Well I hope they open their minds and seek at least DETC accreditation!:eek:

    Hello everyone!:)
     
  7. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    They upgrade it their website looks much better and has more info, Finally.
     
  8. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    Hi. Yes, I think it is a vast improvement...

    Dave
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    This is from the California Pacific University [sic] website:
    PLAIN TALK ABOUT ACCREDITATION
    Accreditation has become a buzzword extraordinaire. The last time we looked, in addition to a flurry of accredited hospitals, schools, art museums and the like, there are also accredited dog groomers! P-l-e-a-s-e! Let’s get some perspective!

    WE CONSCIENTIOUSLY OBJECT [TO ACCREDITATION STANDARDS]
    As it is currently implemented, we conscientiously object to the process and practice of accreditation. It encourages and uneven playing field upon which the privileged are favored.

    THE ACCREDITATION WHIRLWIND
    Schools get caught up in the accreditation whirlwind believing they are providing everything they can for their students. We believe this is a dangerous and needlessly expensive blind spot. In this country accreditation has evolved into a vicious cycle of politics, mass recruitment and tier upon tier of bureaucratic complication. The results of this include, but are not limited to, ever expanding lobbying, staffing, paper pushing and red tape occurring simultaneously within and between the government, private agencies, and educational institutions. These combined machinations, by their cumbersome nature, inflate the cost of higher education beyond what we believe to be fair and reasonable for taxpayers and/or students alike! One aspect of this, student loans, is particularly troublesome.
    Click here to read the full website.
     
  10. back2cali

    back2cali New Member

    I did not know John Bear recommends CPU

    I noticed on their website that John Bear recommends a California State approved degree as it states on their website as posted from an anonomous student comment.

    I consulted by email with Dr. John Bear about DBA Programs. He recommended yours. - R.S.M. Oak Harbor WA

    I would have concern that all students are only listed by initials of their names, are they concerned perhaps that they could get fired from their position or humiliated if their full names were listed on their "comment"?:confused:
     
  11. Dave Wagner

    Dave Wagner Active Member

    California Pacific University was listed a few times in Bear's Guides in the chapter discussing 10 or 12 good unaccredited schools. This was in the mid-90's when there were considerably fewer DL options at the graduate level than there are now. I'm not sure that chapter constituted an official "recommendation" but more of an acknowledgement that it is theoretically possible for a school to be "good" or offering degrees of some conceivable utility, even though it doesn't maintain regional accreditation. Perhaps email exchanged with potential students arose out of that chapter in Bear's Guides. Dunno.

    Dave
     
  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    This isn't supported by the quote offered. What you have is an anonymous quote offering a second-hand suggestion that someone recommended CPU. But you state it as if it is fact. Hardly. Perhaps John did "recommend" CPU. That would seem unusual, but I guess it could have happened. But an anonymous comment posted by a school for self-serving purposes does not establish that the recommendation took place.
     
  13. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    In the 70s and 80s and into the 90s, I used to say a lot, about schools like California Pacific, "If you are satisfied that an unaccredited degree will meet your present and predictable future needs, then this is one of your better options."

    The main thing that has changed over the years is that there are many properly accredited non-resident and short-residency Master's and Doctoral programs now . . . and even the decent unaccredited degrees can be problematic, especially in the growing number of jurisdictions that regulate the use of such degrees. And if the McCollum bill becomes law, it will be a whole new ballgame in this regard.

    That said, Charlie Dalton, founder-owner of California Pacific, always seemed to be a decent and honest fellow, and I don't believe I ever heard anything bad about CPU, other than regarding their lack of accreditation. (Dalton, incidentally, is unrelated, I am pretty sure, to the Theron 'Ted' Dalton, long time owner of Newport. You will find Newport in my posthumous edition but not California Pacific.)
     
  14. cbkent

    cbkent Member

    What are the provisions of the McCollum bill?
     
  15. Steve King

    Steve King Member

    Congresswoman Betty McCollum introduced the Diploma Integrity Protection Act of 2007 in the US House of Representatives. The full details of the bill can be found here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c110:1:./temp/~c11091yYpr::

    The bill calls for:
    1. the US Dept. of Education to create and maintain a list of US and foreign degree-granting institutions acceptable for US visas and federal employment; and
    2. the creation of a task force to study the issue and make recommendations to Congress.
    She introduced a similar bill in 2006, which died in committee. My personal opinion is that it is unlikely to be successful this year either. However, this is a common path for many congressional bills; they are introduced year after year until they gain enough traction for successful passage by both houses of Congress. Who knows? Maybe this year is the year the McCollum bill will be signed into law.

    Steve
     

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