Nova = FT Faculty?

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  1. macattack

    macattack New Member

    Now that I can't do a search of most posts in the last 5+years, I will post this thread.

    What are the prospects of entering academia full-time with a Nova DBA? I am hoping since Accounting is an in-demand field and I will have a CPA license that I will be able to find employment. Any chance at an AACSB university - at least a small/medium sized state school?

    Also, what is the salary for such a position?

    Thanks.

    [http://www.huizenga.nova.edu/FutureStudents/Doctoral/DBA.cfm
     
  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    When I was at Keiser College, or, I suppose Keiser University now, there was an adjunct with a Nova DBA who they took on permanently after a few months to be department chair for business. Keiser's not exactly AACSB, but it's a living....

    -=Steve=-
     
  3. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    I can give you some examples. A colleague of mine in accounting went to the University of North Alabama with a CPA/DBA combo from NSU. There is a well known fellow at Ball State with a Nova DBA. I'm here at Kettering University. There are many more examples - check Peperdine, Harding, and more. A number of these are tenured full-time folks.

    Realize that truly top tier is probably out of the league for most any DL program.

    Regards - Andy

     
  4. macattack

    macattack New Member

    Andy (and others), are these examples exceptions to the rule? I would hate to go through the program to find I am not employable. Also, I would have limited actual teaching experience; rather I would have extensive industry experience. Is that an uphill battle also? Do you suspect most graduates with these types of placements already had significant academic careers prior to graduation? See, I am dreaming of entering academia, but I cant attend a full-time program due to family and financial reasons.

    Also, I am trying to get an idea of salary to make sure I can financially take the plundge. Do you know any good resources to find current faculty salaries?

    Thank you, Jesse.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Nova DBAs are employable. Try Google searches or contacting NSU's alumni office for more examples. You don't have to be at Harvard to have a fulfilling career in academia.

    Yes, in the sense that they present at conferences and publish articles in peer-reviewed journals. Are you in a position to do some of that?

    What about a part-time program at your local state university? Not an option?

    One place: http://www.salary.com

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Andy (and others), are these examples exceptions to the rule? I would hate to go through the program to find I am not employable.

    ** This is hard to answer - there are DL grads from various schools that aren't employed - but many that are. The degree isn't the only thing you bring to the job market. Experience, teaching ability, scholarship - and more - come into play in hiring decisions.

    Also, I would have limited actual teaching experience; rather I would have extensive industry experience. Is that an uphill battle also? Do you

    ** Industry experience is highly valued in many business schools. Teaching ability is also important. How about gaining experience as an adjunct to start with? I talk as an adjunct for 12 years before I started my DBA. I'm glad I did. As it is, I found that I could teach fairly well. However, if I found I couldn't teach (or didn't like it), then I wouldn't have gone for the DBA.

    suspect most graduates with these types of placements already had significant academic careers prior to graduation? See, I am dreaming of

    ** It depends - some have, some haven't. My colleague at North Alabama was strong in industry experience but had little teaching. My suggestion is to get teaching experience along the way - make sure you can teach well and that you like it.

    entering academia, but I cant attend a full-time program due to family and financial reasons.

    ** I know the feeling. I would check your area, however, to see what your part-time options are. For example, if you live in the Cleveland area you can attend Cleveland State's part-time DBA program. Given the choice of a DL degree or Cleveland State - the choice is easy.

    Also, I am trying to get an idea of salary to make sure I can financially take the plundge. Do you know any good resources to find current faculty salaries?

    ** Salaries vary all over the place depending on field (accounting pays much more than organizational behavior), geography, school type (private, public, church related, etc.) and other factors. Salary.com is a place to look. www.isworld.org has salaries for IS faculty as on e example. Realize that DL grads typically end up at smaller and less prestigous schools, however.

    Thank you, Jesse.[/QUOTE]
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    There are plenty faculty members with NOVA degrees, a simple google search can show you evidence of this.

    Accounting is really hot now, with 3 jobs per graduate available, I wouldn't worry to much about getting a full time gig. The issue here is timing, you should get your doctorate as soon as possible as what is good now might not be good in the future. If you look at IS, in 2000 you had 3 jobs per graduate but now is less than one job available per graduate.

    The best strategy is to do a minor in a second field that is in good demand like finance or marketing. I remember that in my faculty, few faculty members were hired in IS with minors in this due to the shortage of instructors in the field.

    In summary, more than the school is timing. If you have the right qualification at the right time you are in business.
     
  8. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member


    Two things: I can't quantify it, but from what I have seen, Nova has the Most full time faculty members of any of the online schools.

    #2 - RF Valve, just curious where the 3 jobs per Accouting DBA figure is from
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    This is based on the comments of PhD students in accounting that I have heard. However, you can judge by your self, see the link below

    http://www.higheredjobs.com/faculty/default.cfm?MainCat=34#Code34

    For every job in HR you have 8 in accounting, for every job in IS you have 2 in accounting.

    At my local University we are hiring PhDs in accounting from Asian Universities due to the shortage.
     
  10. macattack

    macattack New Member

    Thank you all for the helpful information and links.
     
  11. macattack

    macattack New Member

    I'm trying to dial in how many days per year I would need to travel to week-long classes, national seminars, summer institute, etc. Could someone experienced with the program break this down for me please. I will be traveling from Seattle so I would be doing the week-long classes versus weekend classes to keep airfare down.

    Thanks.
     
  12. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    I graduated a few years ago, so I had to check this:

    1. Core classes - 30 credits (7 four credit classes that require a week and 1 two hour course that requires a weekend).

    2. Specialty - 12 credits (3 four credit classes that require a week) - some specialties require 16 credits - but then only require 6 core classes.

    3. Research - 12 credit hours (4 three credit classes, each is a 2 day class - usually a weekend).

    Other components are pretty much on-line.

    Regards - Andy


     
  13. edowave

    edowave Active Member

    As more of the "baby boom echo" kids become college age and the current faculty members retire, there will be a shortage of business PhDs. In some areas of the country it is already happening.
     
  14. macattack

    macattack New Member

    So Andy, if I understand correctly, each core/specialty class requires a week = 10 week-long trips to campus. Or do you take 2 concurrently, meaning only 5 week-long trips to FL?

    Thanks again.
     
  15. little fauss

    little fauss New Member

    I don't know about AACSB, as typically they require an AACSB-accredited degree to teach for them, but I personally know a small college president who got his EdD from Nova, so the label's not exactly death to an academic career.

     

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