UoP dumped by Intel

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Are you implying single mothers of minority backgrounds cannot complete an AACSB-accredited MBA program? It is in the best interest of EVERYONE to earn an AACSB-accredited MBA degree. It will serve them best in the future. Don't you agree?

 

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Excellent points! Do you know of ANY AACSB school that would allow such poor academics to florish? I doubt it.

 

OK...

What about ACBSP accredited schools? Intel is alienating gradautes from good schools (like Marymount, Norwich, Embry-Riddle, Southern New Hampshire University) by only recognizing AACSB schools.

AACSB may be the "gold standard" but it's not the end all be all, supposedly IACBE is soon to be CHEA recognized as well.

I understand the ABET requirement as engineering is MUCH more specialized than business.

 

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Might be that none of the Top 100 business schools -that I know of- claim ACBSP.
By anyway you measure it AACSB is CLEARLY the best.

 

They have ACBSP and have for some time.

I am having a lot of trouble with this website today....

 

Intel and ABET

I would be curious to learn how Intel implements the ABET requirement for employees interested in pursuing degrees in computer science or engineering. Sounds like a simple matter, but in practice it's cloudier.

First issue: ABET normally only accredits BS degrees. Only rarely does ABET accredit MS degrees; I think this is limited to a few schools that don't have undergraduate programs. Technically, the vast majority of graduate degree programs in CS and engineering are not ABET-accredited, even at the best schools.

Second issue: Many top schools have never pursued ABET accreditation in computer science. The ABET website seems to be offline today, but I believe that Stanford and Carnegie-Mellon (two of the top-rated CS programs in the world), as well as the entire Ivy League, lack ABET accreditation for CS. This is presumably because CS (unlike engineering) is not subject to state licensure laws, and so there is no legal requirement for accredited degrees. All of these schools do hold ABET accreditation for their engineering BS degrees, which are more heavily regulated.

My guess is that Intel would accept an MIT MS program in engineering, or a Stanford BS program in computer science, as legitimate, even though technically neither program is ABET-accredited. Both schools do hold ABET accreditation for engineering BS degrees, and that's probably the standard that Intel would apply.

 

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No.

Dave

 

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Hi Jim,

What does an exercise program have to do with students learning?

By the way, please tell me that with such contempt for students that you've been deactivated from the faculty roster.

Dave

 

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Actually I did not - I wrote "Being mediocre is OK if you work for the government "... I also wrote that some "UoP students are very good".

Dave, you appear to have an axe to grind...about something...

 

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Dave,

How about this...we really aren't communicating...and I do not wish to waste your time. I'm sure you have better things to do with your time than bother with me.

 

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Jim,

Behold, your paragraph:

"How about this...UoP (on average) does not turn out a quality product. Some UoP grads are going to be good - because they would be good anywhere. Being mediocre is OK if you work for the government - but not in a business where performance counts. "

Remember, the English language has a feature called paragraphs, which are organized around a central theme.

Dave

 

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Dave,

Not everyone on this board grew up in the US. - I was not aware that it was restricted to English native speakers only

I assume we are now in "get the last word in mode?"

 

What the heck ...

Dave, unfortunately, we meet again. I have to say ... you have not changed.

I read Jim's post, and I totally understood what he was driving toward.

Why would you want to insult him by making a comment wishing him deactivated from teaching? That was unkind. Jim did not wish you bad luck!

I think you troll around looking for oportunity to engage in less than friendly debate.

Really, Dave, chill son.

 

So then the Counseling degree that is CACREP accredited at Capella is of higher quality than those at the University of Kentucky, Ohio State, Standford, and UCLA. How could that be I mean all of these find institutions are NFP?

 

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Interesting -

1) Jim teaches/takes a check from UOP.

2) UOP does not turn out quality students.

3) Compare #1 to #2 and make your own conclusions.

 

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What gave you that impression? You must be ready to say uncle.

Dave

 

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As I said - open mouth, insert foot in mouth.

UoP has a fairly "canned" approach for teaching just about any class - all the instructor does is deliver it. A part of the college experience is the freedom to fail - which is why only 27% of the adult US population has a BA/BS. Babying people thru the process is not doing them any favors - as Intel has discovered. The business marketplace (and UoP's "bread and butter" IS their MBA program) has spoken.

 

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No...but if it will validate your self-worth for you - I'd be glad to.

"Uncle" - Merry Christmas

 

Not necessarily. The value of professional accreditation varies widely, depending on the licensing laws that apply to your field and in your state. In some cases, professional accreditation is legally required, and you should expect reputable schools to have it. In other cases, professional accreditation is not legally required, and reputable schools may or may not have it.

In other words, professional accreditation may be vital in some situations, but of little value in others. If it is unimportant, then legitimate schools may not bother with it.

My understanding is that state laws typically do not require CACREP-accredited degrees for counselors. In this situation, reputable schools may or may not pursue CACREP accreditation. If it is legally optional, then the presence or absence of such accreditation may have little or no practical significance.