Okay, I have to make a choice. Here are the two sides: CSU PROS: How often in life do you get a chance to be in on the ground floor of something as historic and important as a school and accreditation’s first few terminal degrees? This is a chance to put money and mouth in the same place, and become a card carrying advocate for alternate education channels. CONS: This is a lot of work for the ‘lighter’ utility. If the programs tanks or DOE says screw off to DETC, I could feel pretty silly. Teaching at Harvard will be off the list (teaching in general is not a financial option for me for at least the next 15 years.) NCU PROS: RA CC adjunct teaching is probably possible CONS: Teaching at Harvard may still be out.
Additional pros for NCU (as least from my perspective) NCU is a candidate for accreditation by the Association of Collegiate Business Schools and Programs (ACBSP). NCU gives you the choice between a DBA and a PhD in BA. NCU offers 17 specializations to choose from. Additional con for NCU NCU offers 17 specializations to choose from. (I’ve changed specializations three times since starting their doctoral program )
ACBSP is more focused on teaching while AACSB is more focused on research. AACSB is considered to be more prestigious but you won't find many [if any] DL AACSB accredited doctoral programs. However, there are quite a few DL AACSB accredited MBA programs. As far a professional business accreditation goes: AACSB = gold ACBSP = silver IACBE = bronze
AACSB is the accreditor for the big schools....it is designed to accredit research schools. ACBSP is the accreditor for schools whose interest is more on the teaching side than research. Honestly, I don't think one is better than the other, but the Prof's at AACSB schools will probably prefer to hire a PhD from a fellow AACSB school.
There is an additional possible con for NCU. The ghost of distance learning institutions past: SCUPS... Dave
I would personally choose CSU's DBA and become part of some historical. I have a BSBA and MBA from CSU and can say from experience their a top notch DETC school. I was considering CSU's DBA, but was given advice to pursue my third and final degree at another university. So, I enrolled at NCU. If I didn't have any degree(s) from CSU, I would have pursued the DBA CSU. As for DETC gaining the U.S Dept of Education approval, I'm confident this will not be a problem. The DETC is a very skilled accreditor with 80+ years of expertise in distance education. CSU was the only school selected for the DBA pilot, which speaks highly for the university. DETC and CSU are probably working very closely with one another to ensure the success of the DBA. I've heard once the DBA gains approval through the U.S. Dept of Ed, the DETC will look into accrediting PhD's.
I find that the CSU DBA program would be a good fit for many individuals interested in the business world and who seek advancement of knowledge etc.
For closure, I selected NCU. Given all the work necessary I could not bring myself to enroll in the CSU program given I already have two DETC accredited degrees. The chance to cross the fence was to great a calling. Also, while I have hardly been even a minor contributor to degreeinfo, I’m going to stop reading and posting here due to some information about some of the key players involved here. When one of my posts seeking clarification was deleted (very nicely worded inquiry IMHO also), I lost faith. I won’t be missed because I’ve only posted about 100 things in over 2 years. I may join the other board where many of the folks went to, but I have to admit that after reading over there, it is the same group of 6 or 7 people that ticked me off when they were here. I guess in actuality the golden age that was is now over, neither place seems to me equal to what was at degreeinfo in 2003-2005. Off to my DBA studies…
By the way, my posting here is in support of distance learning and the degreeinfo community and should in no way be considered an endorsement of any past, present, or future behavior of any other individual involved here. Dave
Re: Re: Re: Re: NCU or CSU DBA The original poster was referring to Columbia Southern University. But CSU can stand for a few university names. Columbia Southern University Colorado State University California State University (as you mentioned) Charles Sturt University
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: NCU or CSU DBA Indeed it can! California State University Cambridge State "University" Central State University (California) Central State University (Ohio) the former Central State University (Oklahoma), now known as University of Central Oklahoma Charles Sturt University Charleston Southern University Chicago State University Cleveland State University Colorado State University Columbia Southern University Columbia State "University" Columbus State University Connecticut State University
