have NA master's...want RA master's

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by jagmct1, Jun 18, 2006.

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  1. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    Don't even try, KALOS, Simon and gang will start asking you for a statistical analysis and survey that supports your statement otherwise your are being bias and your experience is one in a million.

    I have worked in many companies and no one cares about this RA/NA business as long as the individual has the experience and the degree is not a mill.
     
  2. tscalzitti

    tscalzitti New Member

    Sometimes not even then :( Oh well I am at a NA currently and everything is good. Maybe I will do a RA for a change of pace, then again I did that about 16 years ago and it was not all that different. Well other then my age that is
     
  3. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Kalos
    Did you ever answer the question - What are your background and experiences that make you the authority?
     
  4. Kalos

    Kalos member

    I didn't say I was "the authority" - but I clearly know more than you...
     
  5. Felipe C. Abala

    Felipe C. Abala New Member

    I completely agree with you RFValve. I happen to be on the same circumstances you just mentioned... Thanks for that supportive view.
     
  6. Michael Nunn

    Michael Nunn New Member

    It isn't, it's just a different opinion on a topic that has not received much debate until now. "Gross" and "misleading" sound like the exaggerated words from someone with an inflated ego and who enjoys distorting the truth about his so called "anecdotal" experiences.
     
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  7. w_parker

    w_parker New Member

    In the work place it is not likely that an RA or NA question would arise, or whether it is RA or AACSB, however, in the academic world I would suspect (and recall from the past on this board) that there is a perception that DL degrees are inferior. This is my opinion, but it is based on observations. An AACSB degree often seemed to be desired, at a minimum, from the hiring committee of an AACSB school, which usually also requires an RA school in order to be AACSB, though I believe there are foriegn schools that are also AACSB, but I do not believe there are any AACSB schools that are in the US and not RA, and I cannot think of one NA or DETC school that is AACSB accredited, though I do believe many are members. Of course, AACSB costs money, so larger and/or more costly schools tend to be AACSB. If you wish to teach, even at the CC level, I would recommend pursuing an AACSB accredited school, in person if possible, and DL if it is the only avenue viable to you. Lastly, other than a socialization process, and in certain classes where the added value of face to face communication is necessary, I have found little in difference of what I actually learned from the material being covered, whether DL or B&M.

    William Parker
    BS Accounting, Upper Iowa University
    MBA, Morehead State University, current student.
     
  8. Kalos

    Kalos member

    One view on DL MBAs was given recently at a Blue Ribbon Round Table discussion on MBAs with representatives from top Canadian Schools of Business (http://thestar.blogs.com/education/2005/09/2_pm_roundtable.html):
     
  9. simon

    simon New Member


    A review of my posts clearly indicate a fair and balanced perspective of this issue. It is truly revealing that you tend to dismiss and deny the fact that I mentioned DETC degrees have value in certain work and school situations and in fact that the credibility of these degrees may increase in the future with the advent of the DETC doctorate. I did not debase these degrees BUT merely made note of the fact that regionally accredited degrees are CURRENTLY the gold standard in terms of acceptance in the majority of work and educational situations. In fact I supported your positive anecdotal experiences at work but presented a caveat to other posters that prior to entering a DETC program they should make certain that such a degree will be accepted in their work and academic situations.

    Now contrast my balanced position with the absolute rigid stand you and your "gang" have taken that contends because of your positive work experiences with DETC degrees or courses they are therefore equivalent to RA degrees! There is no recognition or acknowledgement that what works for you may not work for other posters but you don't care about that. Your only concern is that your DETC degrees are not seen as inferior, a point that I can understand. However, by making generalized and unfounded statements and then defending them, by distorting and misinterpreting my posts in order to be proven right, actually negates your credibility in regard to proving your points.

    So I would suggest that posters who are seeking DETC degrees speak with deans of the specific DETC schools they are considering prior to making any decisions. I suggest that you ask these individuals questions relating to the "debate" going on in this forum. I did in the past and found that each of these persons straightforwardedly related that they were aware of the perception of DETC degrees relative to RA degrees but were attempting to achieve parity with RA degrees.

    It may also be a good idea to contact their counterparts in RA schools and the RA accrediting agencies that oversee their accreditation to gain their perspectives regarding DETC versus RA degrees. As mentioned you may wish to contact job recruiters in the specific professions that you wish to enter in order to obtain their input into this matter. These recruiters have an excellent grasp of what employers are seeking in job applicants.
     
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  10. simon

    simon New Member

    TEST
     
  11. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    You know more than Randell? Don't make me laugh!


    Abner
     
  12. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Maybe you do...I'm not that bright sometimes. What experience do you have with DL? And I don't mean experience like, "I have a friend who knows someone", or "I saw somewthing on TV one night." What have YOU done?
     
  13. Kalos

    Kalos member

    The wit and wisdom of Randell:

    He is so charmed with California Approval, he failed to notice we were dealing with Canadian schools.
     
  14. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Thanks- :cool:
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    The point was not a Canadian school. It was the fact that you lumped state approved schools in with mills.
     
  16. Kalos

    Kalos member

    Different categories of bogus.
    The point was you thought California "Approval" had any effect or credibility in Canada.
    But that's OK. We can let it pass. I concede you know a lot about bogus schools.
     
  17. CoachTurner

    CoachTurner Member

    when is someone gonna ban this dweeb?
     
  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Right -;)
     
  19. foobar

    foobar Member

    The "T" in "DETC" stands for . . .

    TRAINING.

    No four-year or graduate RA institution would consider themselves to be in the "training" business. As long as DETC accredits DL locksmithing, gunsmithing, aromatherapy and other solely vocational pursuits, there will be a perceived difference between DETC and the regional accreditors.
     
  20. Kalos

    Kalos member

    The "T" in "DETC" stands for . . .

    Also, DETC is its own worst enemy. It has a paranoid outlook that is difficult to reconcile with the image of a serious public interest organization. From DETC's FAQs:

    "Forces at work" ? You might expect this tone from Amway, or some pyramid scheme one step ahead of the law, but not from a serious Accreditation Organization.
     

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