BEST UNACCREDITED PhD PROGRAM

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  1. Sabine

    Sabine New Member

    Hi all,

    According to you...

    Could you please tell me the name of the "best" unaccredited distance learning PhD program in Business Administration?
     
  2. Mustang

    Mustang New Member

    THERE IF NO BEST UNACCREDITED
     
  3. BlueMason

    BlueMason Audaces fortuna juvat

    I spose you could just hit up ebay for that... but if you're interested in actually furthering your education and knowledge, I'd suggest pursuing a doctorate from an accredited institution.

    ...we don't need anymore life-experience based PhD wannabes in this world.... sorry
     
  4. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    It is from me and for only $14,999 I will send you the best unaccredited PhD available to you in the free world. Send today for free information.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Hopefully you put "best" in quotes because you realize what you're asking is oxymoronic. I don't think there's a very useful answer to give you, unless maybe it's one of the state approved schools in California. But even then it's merely a matter of the least bad.

    Why do you ask?

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. JamesT

    JamesT New Member

    Dear Sabine,

    Good question. I realize I may take some flack, but check into Kennedy Western University in Wyoming. They have been around awhile and are one of the more progressive.
     
  7. Bob Fiske

    Bob Fiske Member

    Sabine,

    Would you mind saying WHY you want an unaccredited degree and what you plan to use it for? Do you understand the nuances of accreditation?

    Bob
     
  8. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Just curious...

    Why would anyone deliberately pursue an unaccredited Ph.D. in Business Administration? There are plenty of regionally accredited, D/L Ph.D. programs in Business Administration out there; it's not like U/A is the only option or anything.
     
  9. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    You forgot degree mill.
     
  10. JamesT

    JamesT New Member

    Once again it's RA or No Way! Yes they were established 22 years ago (1984) and are currently licensed in Wyoming. Accreditation in America is a voluntary process, regardless of what some people try and force you to believe.

    http://www.kw.edu/about.asp?active=about

    Randall you forgot to mention that they won their suit against the State of Oregon for being labeled a diploma mill. Noticed that even though they don't meet the standards for Oregon, they are listed with a S, meaning state licensed behind their name.

    http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

    S = An unaccredited U.S. entity that has the legal authority to issue degrees from a U.S. state or territorial government that has a legal structure in place to authorize the establishment of colleges whose degrees are valid for use in the licensing jurisdiction, but which has not demonstrated that its degrees meet Oregon standards.
     
  11. foobar

    foobar Member

    Who said anything about RA? The previous posters said unaccredited. You're the first to mention RA. There are other recognized accreditors.

    In any event, the fact that KW has been around 22 years says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about the quality of the education delivered there.

    Neither does anything else in your post.
     
  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

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    foobar Member

  14. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I never said RA or NO way. I have two degrees for NA schools and I earned them when they were not accreditied. Relax and take a breath. There are better school that are not accredited then K-W. Have you ever spoke to them? I have and they are like high pressure used car salesman. They started to yell at me one time telling me that I was not serious because I would not enroll on the spot.

    Do your homework and read the words people post before getting on the soapbox!
     
  15. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

  16. AuditGuy

    AuditGuy Member

    As others have said, it is an oxymoron.

    It depends what you plan to do with your degree. A KWU degree is state-licensed, but the list of things it will keep you from doing are long, while the benefits are little.
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Why do this to yourself?

    Why am I allowing myself to be sucked into this yet again? (Sigh.)

    To answer my own question, I can think of only three likely reasons for pursuing a doctorate from an unaccredited school:

    -It's cheaper.
    -It's easier and quicker.
    -There is no accredited program in the subject that is reasonably available by D/L.

    Of these reasons, the last is the only one to give me pause.

    Cheaper? Cheaper for what? You pay a lot of money for a recognized degree or somewhat less money for a degree whose professional value is restricted and whose academic value is virtually nil. This is a false economy, think.

    Easier and quicker? Then the goal is to get a "degree" that claims to be more than it is. Using such a degree is intellectually dishonest and quite possibly illegal.

    No accredited alternative? Yes, this is sometimes the case. My favorite example is the S.J.D. program at Northwestern California University School of law. NWCU is an unaccredited California D/L law school founded in the 1970s. It's J.D. program has generated, and continues to generate, new California lawyers every year. There is no question but that NWCU is legitimate though unaccredited. And there is no accredited D/L S.J.D. program in the United States.

    (But it is apparently possible to earn a D/L Ph.D. in law from a U.K. university, the J.S.D from an Australian school, and the LL.D. from a South African institution, all first-rate schools and well recognized. So even with NWCU, the student should be very, very sure that only an American degree will meet his needs.)

    In a field like business administration, there is NO shortage of accredited, D/L possibilities. There just ISN'T a good reason for going the unaccredited route.
     
  18. anngriffin777

    anngriffin777 New Member

    You can get a state of California approved, non accredited doctorate degree from California Pacific University. It is real, as it is state approved, it just has no accreditation.
     
  19. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Wow...it's creepy to see my old posts from nearly eight years ago, arising from the crypt in response to the same conjure that brought them forth the first time...
     
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    1. I'm curious why you'd bring this up, and them up, out of the blue.

    2. What Nosborne48 said.
     

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