Kerry to lead filibuster against Alito

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Oh, come on now gkillion! He he he!



Abner

 

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What are you saying, that because Kerry was in Vietnam for 90 days he was not a hero? Is their a time limit that on must serve before being considered a hero? A friend of mine was in Iraq for 1 week when he was in an explosion that crushed his ribs and earned him a purple heart, and a ticket back to Bethesda. Should I not take his hero staus seriously because he was only there a week????

 

Let just face the fact the he has always been an oppurtunist and joined the service to benefit his political career. Ever see the pic of him as a college kid drooling over President Kennedy. He went over there and once again was an oppurtunist and got his 3 hearts in record time , most simingly for things that other did not get them for. Was this guy Gomer Pyle or what? Then when he got home he found out that alot of people had turned against the war and switched sides and went and sided with traitors like jane fonda. He sold his brother soldiers out for political advantage..nice guy. We wont even get into how he likes his rich women..more opppurtunitism When he decides to run for the white house he know that national security is a big issue and he trots it back out. Perfect timing huh?

It would have never been attacked had ne not hung his hat on the fact that he was a solider to cover up how incompetant the dems are at national security. I dont seem to remeber Bob Dole, Who lost a friggin arm, using the I am a war hero mantra. How bout bush senior? WWII pilot? Rarely heard that too. Kerry got jammed up because he asserted that he should be president because is he is a vet, not that being a vet complemented his other public service...which stunk....

You can say what you want about Bush and partying, but when he was firin up he wasnt planning on being president! Kerry has always had stars in his eye, and it pretty clear to me that those who want ot be in charge usually suck at it....

 

Interesting speculation Lou. The fact is at least Kerry had the balls to sign up and engage in combat, and the fact that he did earn those medals has been proven, much to the dismay of the swift boat vets for truth freaks.


Abner

 

Abner,

You are right. He had the balls to sign up and go to Vietnam whatever his motivation. Unfortunately after he got there he turned tale and ran. I think Lou nailed him pretty accurately.

 

That's is just not true. The Swift Boat Vets for Truth stories were proven untrue. I will not rehash this since it was discussed at length a while back in this very forum. Believe what you want my friend.


Abner

 

Unfortunately, any way you spin it Kerry is no hero nor leader. A political opportunist perhaps.

 

Well,

If this is the thread you are speaking of the SBV's story was not proven incorrect. It was shown the memory of all involved is probably very blurred and the Vietnamese probably have no idea about the role Kerry played. If that is your idea of proof it kind of explains a few things. Now if you have real proof I am all ears but please lets be truthful and logical.

http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20854&highlight=kerry+swift+boat

 

I agree totally Steve. I think both sides are more a like than different. For all of us it is a choice of lesser evils. When either side claims a franchise on good/moral/ethical it is just posturing. All that said we do have to make choices that we can live with and if the country choose differently accept that path to an extent. It is kind of interesting listening to Air America and their alternate view of reality.

 

Dave,

I do not have to prove anything. Kerry's military records and eyewitnesses prove what needs to be proven. Beyond that, what is there left to prove? Are you saying the military is incompetent? Are you saying we cannot trust official government records? Come one now.


Once again, believe what you want. I guess we agree to disagree. I am not interested in rehashing this issue. I will give you the last word if you wish.

Take care,


Abner

 

Ab,

That SEEMS to be the position of alot on the left most of the time. Was that a statement in the form of a question or a question?

Our military is often shown as a bunch of dummies who couldnt get by in life if it wasnt for government support. Wow...thats sound alot like welfare doesnt it? The only difference is our military is successful, works hard, and has a sense of duty. Is amazing to me how people want to bring everyone down to the same level instead of building them up to the same level. Two very different things and a fundemental difference between conservatives and liberals...not always republicains and democrates though.

 

Hi Abner

Thanks for giving me permission both to post and hold beliefs. If you'll reread what I wrote you'll note I never said you needed to prove anything concerning Kerry. You, however, were repeatedly stating that his story had been proven in another thread. That didn't sound right at all to me so I looked it up. The thread mentioned a news story that examined the incident but proved nothing.

I think you are 100% correct. Kerry can and is judge by his actions both old and new. I think that is the biggest reason he lost the presidential election. Until the Democrats can think more clearly and come up with better canidates they are doomed to be a minority party which is bad for our country. Only they can make the needed changes.

 

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I thought that the Marines was extremely wasteful in some of their practices, and was far too bureaucratic. It seemed like you had to get 30 signatures just to get some new AJAX to clean the heads (bathrooms).

But there were plenty of great marines I served with, and I thought they were hero's. Even though it took 6 months of paperwork to get them a medal...

Good Analogy Steve.

 

The IG of the U.S. Navy conducted an investigation in September of 2004 and verified that Kerry earned and deserved all of his medals, and that all his superiors acted accordingly. I would rather trust the official and unbiased rulings of the U.S. Navy than the SBVFT clan, all of which had a plitical agenda in stopping Kerry being elected.

 

To address the waste issue...


We get something out of the military..safety and security. Most investment in welfare is a multigeneration Jerry Springer fanclub. There is a big difference. Not to mention the traits of the people we are spending the money on. Who do want to have your money. People who have courage, honor, and courage. that are wil DIE to protect me and you..or a group that TENDS to be with hand out, on there a$$, and refuse to improve themselves. Not even a contest........

Kerry killed his own credibility when he came home and did what he did. Did he have the right to do it. Absolutley. Will people hold him accountable. Aparently so Mr. Senator....