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A. I don't know

B. Even if I knew why would I advertise or promote use of unaccredited degrees? This will s end wrong message.

But the answer is A.

Learner

 

I do not want to speak for Jimmy but I suspect that his question came from the fact that in your first posting to this thread you indicated that you had some specific knowledge on that subject. It seems now that you do not. Just a misunderstanding I guess.
Jack

 

That's okay Jack, Lerner has a bad habit of posting various claims and not being able to verify them.

I didn't think he knew but wanted to give him the opportunity to redeem himself as others have challenged him and he never delivered for them either.

We now know to take most of Lerner's posts cum grano salis.

 

Miguelstefan, I disagree with Alabama state schools as you had written above. They show to accredit or license BSU, which we seem to have a conclusion is not a legitimate school based on various info discussed here.

As for Tees: I would at least stay away from Breyer State University and most likely Alabama licensed and unaccredited schools and look towards a accredited and recognized by the US DOE school.

 

Point well taken and I understand and empathize were you are coming from. However, two things must be considered before you can make a sweeping indictment of all licensed school in any state. First, not all licensed schools in Alabama are BSU. In fact we have a very credible contributor here with PhD from a legitimate religious Alabama state licensed seminary/university. Second, I was very clear that Tees should check here for the legitimacy of any particular institution before enrolling. Therefore, if my suggestion would have been followed there was no risk of him ending up enrolling in a degree mill or a substandard school.

Take care and good luck!

 

You mean....? It took coming to DegreeInfo to realize that Breyer State is a diploma mill?

Wasn't that obvious from the program itself, like where you gave them a credit card number, a resume, and received in return a DBA degree?

Hmmmm....?

 

As usual Jimmy you got it wrong.
Especially think about the answer B.
I have no interest promoting unaccredited schools.
By the way why are you so interested

Learner

 

Please explain what "why are you so interested" means. I do not understand.

 

My suggestion is very simple.

If degree is your goal stay away from unaccredited schools or schools with unrecognized accreditation.

Not directed at miguelstefan, its a general statement.


Learner

 

Lerner,

You posted that most states do not accept degrees from unaccredited schools for corrections officer positions.

This statement means some states do. So, I asked you to name them and you couldn't.

Interpretation: You made a statement with no factual basis. How do you know most states don't accept the degrees? Did you investigate? Did you check with all 50 states?

You see, Lerner, when you make blanket statements, you need to be able to verify and validate your remarks or you will be seen as someone who doesn't know what he is talking about.

For instance, "As usual Jimmy you got it wrong," implies I have gotten more than one thing wrong. Where is your proof? Back this statement up with facts, Lerner, facts.

This is what Degree Info is all about--FACTS!

Hearsay, rumors, and unsubstantiated statements have no place on an educational forum.

Now, so Jack won't end up a client instead of a clinician, I will no longer mention this subject matter with you.

As far as "B," which refers to this statement by you,

Don't you think you sent the wrong message when you said you might take some Greek courses from an unaccredited school? Whether you're getting a degree or only taking a course, you would still be patronizing what you claim to abhor.

FACTS and CONSISTENCY, Lerner, FACTS and CONSISTENCY!

 

A. Yes I did, by mistake and I aknoledged it, especially after Gregg explained what kind of school it was, and you forget that they offered GE classes that are accredited via CSU.

But you send in my opinion wrong and constant message every time when you use your signature, I stress its in my opinion.
Not to insult you but to share how I view this.

B. Considering taking class from a school for personal knowledge is like learning from reading a book, this was not for any kind of degree or credential, resume etc.

Its not the same as earning unaccredited degree of unknown standard and use it as real credential now that in my humble opinion is almost a crime - I'm saying this nicely.
Especially if its used for counseling.

Learner

 

UJ what I write here is my opinion as I can't read mind of another person.

It can mean couple of things to me.

What was the motive to ask the same question repeatedly in this and other thread?

Possibility A.

Possibility B. He holds unaccredited degrees.
So maybe he needs info where these degrees can be accepted.
I respect the fact that wile he has these unaccredited graduate and postgraduate degrees he is working on accredited graduate degree at this time.

Why was he going after me ? what he had to gain by challenging me? Did he read the first reply, were I stated I'm not an expert and I think that etc......

His motive is to discredit me simple and plain maybe because he holds unaccredited degrees and my message is not good for him, so the tactic is to kill the messenger.

Learner

 

Virtually the entire second page of this thread is off-topic. Since it seems the original topic of the thread has been exhausted and since we are on the verge of reigniting the tired old snipe-fest, I'm closing this thread down.
Jack

 

I agree with Jack's closing of this thread; and I don't want to start a new one to make my points, so I'm going to use my moderator's ability to add a post to this closed thread so that it'll be where it belongs; and so that tees67 might be further helped...


Given everything you've said, tees67 -- which includes that you just want your bachelors accredited somehow; and that both ease of completion and, I'm guessing, cost, are important factors -- one method that comes to mind is:

• First, get an associates degree from Ashworth College. Given what you said your non-profit does, an Ashworth associates in Business Management, or Psychology might make the most sense... maybe even, believe it or not, Criminal Justice. The point is, do the first two years (all the "lower-division" and general educational parts) of your bachelors through Ashworth. It is among the least expensive of the accredited distance learning associates degree programs out there; it's rigorous enough to be legitimately accredited, but still easy enough for a mature adult like you to almost "breeze" through; the cost includes all text books and everything you'll need for each course, so you won't have to spend more on such things; and it's payable at $35/month (which, on non-profit organization pay, should be welcom), interest-free. Of course, if you pay only $35 month you'll finish long before it's paid off; and they won't actually award the degree until it's paid... so I'd pay $150 to $180 per month, so it would be paid-off right around the time I finished it.
  
  You can also CLEP/DANTES out of a certain number of the Ashworth courses, which would both shorten the time it takes you to get through the program, and would also make doing so less expensive.

At any rate, once you have the very inexpensive and fairly easy-to-get Ashworth associates degree under your belt, you'd only need to enroll in a bachelors completion program (i.e., a program that accepts the 60 hours of the Ashworth associates as the entire lower-division requirement, and then makes you take only another 60 hours of degree major-specific upper-division coursework... for a grand total between the two programs of 120 hours, which is what a bachelors degree is). Two very specific programs come to mind... one of them dirt cheap, but not quite as appropriate to your new non-profit organization job as the not-insignificatnly-more-expensive one which probably is. The two accredited, distance learning bachelors completion programs I have in mind for you are:

1. The nationally-accredited Bachelor of Arts in Missions (with an urban ministry emphasis) from Rescue College. Now, before you say to yourself, "Ick! I didn't say I wanted a religious degree; plus, our non-profit agency isn't a rescue mission," just hear me out: Look closely at the 10 courses which make-up the degree. Except for the "History of Urban Missions," and the "Ministry Management" courses, the other eight are, you have to admit, pretty much the sort of thing that every non-profit agency manager needs to know. Now, normally, even that may not be a factor sufficient to make you want to endure the other two courses which are more religious/missionary in nature... that is, were it not for the insanely low price: The tuition is only $75 per semester credit hour... at least it is at this writing. Think about that: An accredited bachelors degree completion program for non-profit agency managers for only $75/credit hour. I dunno about you, but at that price, I could endure a couple of religious/missionary courses forced down my throat... and do so while standing on one foot!
   
   But there's problem (or, if you consider the two religious/missionary courses a problem, then there's another problem): The Rescue College bachelors requires that you have 90 hours of undergraduate courseword under your belt before you may be admitted into the program. Your Ashworth associates is only 60 hours, so you'd need another 30 hours from somewhere -- above and beyond your Ashworth associates degree -- just to be admitted.
   
   Well, staying with our "keeping the price ridiculously low" theme that we're developing, here, one thing you could do would be to take 30 hours of distance learning, undergrad coursework from Louisiana State University (LSU)... which is probably the least expensive of the regionally-accredited distance learning providers. Since Rescue College is fairly non-specific about precisely what should make-up the 90 hours of oursework that it will accept (other than it does specify general education requirements... but those would be covered in your Ashworth associates degree), you could almost take any LSU courses you wanted, as long as as many of them as possible are upper-division courses (numbered 3xxx and 4xxx). There's all kinds of good stuff in there for managers, just generally; and LSU offers several non-profit management courses, too. You could sort of just treat those 30 hours as electives and take almost anything you wanted. I'd recommend that it be stuff that would be relevant to your job, but it could be almost anything else, too.
   
   Would this be the best approach? Of course not! But, bygod, it would probably get the job done, by hook or by crook; and it would be among the least expensive ways I can think of, overall. It would leave you with a nationally-accredited (as opposed to a regionally-accredited) bachelors, but based on your age and stated purpose, I don't see that as a problem. Just check with your new employer and make sure the job requirement doesn't specifically say that it must be a "regionally" accredited bachelors degree; and if it does, make sure that whoever wrote that specification didn't write "regionally-accredited" when all s/he really meant was "accredited by an agency approved by the US Department of Education (USDE) and/or its Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA)." Some people don't know there's any other kind of USDE/CHEA-approved accreditation, so they use the only accreditation term they've ever heard (i.e., "regional accreditation") and just assume that that means basically the same thing as "accreditation." If accreditation by any USDE- and/or CHEA-approved agency will do, then a nationally-accredited degree will do just fine. Check it out before getting a nationally-accredited bachelors... no matter who it's from!
   
   -- OR --
   
2. You could take your Ashworth associates degree straight to the regionally-accredited Southwestern College of Winfield, Kansas (SCKANS) and enroll in its online Not-for-profit Management bachelors degree completion program. SCKANS will, even though it's regionally-accredited, accept the nationally-accredited Ashworth associates degree into its bachelors completion programs as the entire lower-division requirement. If you did this, you'd emerge with a regionally-accredited bachelors degree... which, of course, is probably better than a nationally-accredited one. Well... it definitely is, I'd say! But it would be more expensive. The Ashworth part would still be cheap, but the SCKANS part would be around $12,000... which is still quite reasonable, but may be more than you'll want to spend. Still, it's an ideal degree for the new career for which you've come out of retirement. Plop that bachelors on top of an Ashworth associates in psychology, for example, and you'd have a credential that's just about perfect for the type of job you now have, at the type of agency where you now work... or so it is my opinion.[/list=1]But those aren't your only options. If price is really a strong consideration (i.e., if you need to keep it cheap because, after all, your non-profit agency job doesn't, as is true with most such jobs, pay all that much), and if a nationally-accredited bachelors would be okay, then just skip the Ashworth Associates and go get the roughly $12,000 Bachelor of Science in Business degree from the nationally-accredited Andrew Jackson University; then, if you still wanted those Rescue College non-profit management courses, you could go get its Certificate in Rescue Ministry... which, if you'll notice, is the exact same 10 courses as it offers in its bachelors degree... and for only $75/credit hour; or you could augment the AJU bachelors with some non-credit (but still extremely useful) non-profit management courses from Ed2Go, but which are offered about as cheaply as anywhere through Ozarks Technical Community College.
   
   By the way: The $12,000 for the Andrew Jackson University (AJU) bachelors sounds, at first, like it's the same price as SCKANS, but remember that SCKANS was just for 60 upper-division hours. The AJU bachelors is everything, front to back... so it's the price of the Ashworth associates degree cheaper than the Ashworth/SCKANS combination.
   
   If you have any questions, tees67; or if anyone has comments, please feel free to... er... oh... wait... the snipers and bickerers ruined that possibility by getting the thread closed!
   
   See, everyone, how the bullsh_t harms even those not involved?