Federal agents execute search warrants in Spokane, Idaho, and Arizona

Hint: http://www.eval.org/consultants.htm

 

So, then, what's the point of accreditation?

 

It's a good question. I think accreditation is neither necessary nor sufficient in determining whether a degree is worthwhile.

But it does provide some information to support such a determination. If an institution is accredited one knows that it's (probably) financially sound, and that it has an adequate infrastructure, bureaucracy, governance structure, and staffing to support its academic goals.

But I think the value of accreditation to employers, admissions committees, etc. is overrated. Using accreditation alone to judge the worthiness of a degree is a cop-out. I encourage people to examine the details of how a degree was earned.

 

Typo. "Irradiate." Feel better?

 

Fine. What is your standard, and how does it differ from accreditation?

 

Accreditors look at this in detail. What is the process you propose for people to follow? What process should employers and others follow to determine how a degree was earned? And what criteria should be used?

Please, take people from a "cop out" to a successful evaluation. I can't wait to hear this.

 

domain registrations

Originally posted by DesElms
While what you're saying (er... well... actually "writing") may well be true about who controls what, a certain amount of caution in jumping to such conclusions is appropriate when it comes to which domain names are or might be hooked to which IP addresses and, moreover, who actually controls what...

Generally, those conclusions are based on the domain registration and material on the site, not just the numerical IP address. For example, a mailto: link to advancedu.org under a "contact us for more info" line of text indicates a connection to the SRU folks.

Now, all that having been said, wouldn't it just be a hoot if, in fact, the St. Regis bunch were also operating web sites with domain names like All-fetish.us or Toysintwats.com!

If you look at the domain resistrations of ...umm... those kinds of sites, you are likely to find that some (whose registrations are not yet masked through a proxy) are registered to one of the defendants in the Regis vs. you-know-who lawsuit.

If all those sites really are controlled by the St. Regis folks, galanga, then I apologize for challenging it.

No offense taken. This is quite a week, isn't it?

G

 

As a hiring manager or HR professional (I'm not one) I will give advantage to people with degrees from schools and programs that earned reputation and have dual accreditation.

At the minimum RA or NA or GAAP.
At preferable level - big pluss is PA - If the program is APA, AMA, ABET etc accredited then it may be able to meet my company demands. If the person is certified and / or licensed.

Memberships and participation in such membership organization.

Then if there was time I will look in to who were the professors, Yes there were times were a person proudly could say I was a student of such and such.

Projects completed etc.

Now obviosly there are other factors such as experiance and professional training, certifications and licenses.

It all depends for what position, what is the persons ability to gain new education, how long ego he or she earned degree, is there continuing education involved.

And there is alway the posibility to have a person take a test.


learner

 

Dr. Douglas I went t o far with my evaluation.

We all know that there are schools that demand deferent levels of work for the same degree.
You know about National University all my friends that studied there for acelerated one a month class told me that it wasn't that chalanging, especially students that went for their undergrad to a more demanding school.

I been to schools that had somthing that is an exuse for a laoratory and others that had state of the art labs setup in collins space center etc. There are MAJOR level deferances in delivery of education between schoosls.

Accreditation is SUPER IMPORTANT, the minimum standards are for our own good and protection.

But I have seen schools that are so deferent from each other that
If one is looking or making dessisions only based on accreditation they are in error.

The academic history, research, etc.

With all stated states are not able to insure quality so accrediting agencies will and we need it to set standards.

If I was manager of accrediting body I would have levels of accreditation.

Level 1 - new - initially meets expectations

Level 2 - meets standards

Level 3 - Exeeds standards

Level 4 - Constantly exeeds standards and leeds in setting new standards.

So
NYU = 3
AIU = 1
PU= 2
Columbia = 4

etc.

Learner

 

Hmmm,

So we could have a government controlled situation like the U.K. and Australia where innovation is stiffled and a very small portion of adults have access to education. Or, we could have a wild west situation where pretty much all degrees are devalued. Personally I prefer the medium ground of the current system that allows innovation and access to a wide group of people. I think the Feds have been negiligent in policing the criminals that run places like SRU, PWU, and K-WU. Speaking of K-WU they are pretty quiet right now.

 

My point was and is that this people did a good job but I prefer if their effort was directed directly to more dengerous sleeper cels of terrorists in USA.
Then if terrorists use fake credentials to gain visas to USA or ouse fake credential evaluators I realized that this is addressing some of issues I see as high priority.
Mills come and go, one more Ronald Peller or XYZ, the trend is good and sends the message.

Learner

 

This video should make everyone happy.

 

I made some comments about how we do this in practice in the thread started by stock.

 

What he said! Every last syllable, typos aside ........ Ok, ok, maybe, not "criminals" just yet (until the handcuffs get slapped on and the wrought iron jail cell gates get slammed shut ....... soon, I hope).

Quite true, .......... except for, I would guess, the persons owning or running or benefitting from, or shilling for, places like SRU, PWU, K-WU, etc.