College Algebra-No Exams

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  1. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    I just looked at the CLEP test for College Algebra. It DOES include determinants for two by two matrices. That's as far as it goes.

    I'd bet that with a week or to evening refresher study, you'd walk right through that exam and save yourself the time and money.
     
  2. jayncali73

    jayncali73 New Member

    I know they have exams, what I don't know is if they are proctored.
     
  3. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    You know, I've really been thinking about trying to do just that. I purchased the REA study guide for the CLEP Algebra exam but haven't spent any real time studying it yet. I checked out the Clovis Community College class and they won't let me even enroll in their college algebra class unless I find a way to take their assessment test. I spoke with someone in admissions about it and they're fairly adamant about it. I'm not really interested in going through all of the hassle of finding a college near me that offers this test and then taking time off from work to go take it.
     
  4. unixman

    unixman New Member

    Great thread - of course, and I'm pretty sure I speak for most TESC BSBA pursuees, anyone aware of a Pre-Calculus exam (that has both College Algebra AND Trigonometry omponent) that is either no-exam, online exam, or open-book exam?

    Cheers.
     
  5. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    There is a new "precalculus" CLEP test. Is that what you mean?
     
  6. FusionEd

    FusionEd New Member

    Has anyone met the Excelsior College College Algebra requirement using Empire State's Algebra's course?

    I was interested in Colorado Community Colleges Online College Algebra until I realized they have prereqs.

    Thanks
     
  7. unixman

    unixman New Member

    That exam isn't available until next year ...
     
  8. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    Does anyone know of a 5- or 8-week term course that meets the Excelsior College Algebra requirement?

    How about starting in March?
     
  9. Pilot

    Pilot Member

    www.pennfoster.edu
    Formerly Education Direct
    Some courses are ace approved one of them is
    Practical algebra it's worth 3 semester hours and will meet the Excelsior College Algebra requirement.
    It is self paced and all quizzes are untimed open book, there is a proctored final exam but it is open book.
    Passing grade is 70% you're allowed to retake the final exam but the maximum grade will be 70% regardless of your score on the second attempt.
    The cost is 55 per semester hour.
    To register you need to contact the
    Business & Iindustrial Training @ 1-800-233-0259.
    Good Luck,
    Pilot...............
     
  10. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    Hey Pilot,

    Thanks for the info. I gave them a call and they could not locate the course. The only thing comparable was Technical Math I and II (at 2 s.h. each). Do you know if they still offer it, or if it could be under a different name?

    Any other options?

    Thanks,
    LfH
     
  11. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    That course is not listed in my student handbook. They may not offer it anymore. Technical Math may be the closest match, but make sure it's been reviewed by ACE, or Excelsior won't take it as transfer credit.
     
  12. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    I see now that the ACE catalog lists it as 'Formerly Technical Mathematics I'.

    Here is the ACE catalog listing:

    Practical Algebra
    (Formerly Technical Mathematics I)
    ACE Transcript Data: ICS-0134
    Location: Self-study.
    Length: Versions 1, 2, and 3: Correspondence
    program.
    Dates: Version 1: January 1983-December
    1986; Version 2: January 1987-November
    2000; Version 3: December 2000-Present.
    Objective: Version 1: To introduce the history
    of engineering and to provide basic
    algebra skills necessary to solve technical
    problems. Versions 2 and 3: To provide
    the basic algebra skills necessary to solve
    technical problems.
    Learning Outcome: Versions 1, 2, and 3:
    Upon successful completion of this
    course, the student will be able to solve
    technical problems involving the use of
    basic algebra skills.
    Instruction: Version 1: Major topics covered
    in the course are an overview of the history
    of engineering; formulas; operations on
    signed numbers, polynomials, and rational
    expressions; factoring; solution of linear systems,
    including the methods of determinants;
    graphs and graphical solutions of linear
    and quadratic equations; exponents;
    radicals; logarithms; imaginary numbers;
    and technical applications. Versions 2 and 3:
    Major topics covered in the course are formulas;
    operations of signed numbers, polynomials,
    and rational expressions; factoring;
    solution of linear systems including the
    methods of determinants; graphs and
    graphical solutions of linear quadratic equations;
    exponents; radicals; logarithms; and
    imaginary numbers. Methods of instruction
    include independent study, correspondence,
    telephone assistance, and examinations.
    Credit Recommendation: Versions 1 and 2: In
    the lower division baccalaureate/associate
    degree category, 2 semester hours in
    Technical Mathematics or Algebra
    (11/84) (4/89) (6/94). NOTE: Course
    should not be applied to Science or Engineering
    majors. Version 3: In the lower
    division baccalaureate/associate degree
    category, 3 semester hours in Algebra
    (12/00).



    What do you think?
     
  13. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    It looks like it would meet the Algebra requirement at Excelsior, but I am sure Penn Foster requires exams during the course, and possibly a proctored exam at the end of the course.
     
  14. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    FYI, I am not adverse to a proctored exam. I hi-jacked this thread in search of an accelerated course.

    Thanks.
     
  15. TCord1964

    TCord1964 New Member

    I didn't imply you were adverse to exams. The name of the thread is "College Algebra, No Exams). Just trying to stay on topic.
     
  16. shawshank

    shawshank New Member

    Formerly Technical Mathematics I

    Thanks for the research guys. Now if we could get an enrolled Excelsior student to find out from an adviser if this course will indeed fulfill the Algebra requirement. I will register ASAP. Thanks again LFH and TCord. Earlier today I also called ED and they could didn't give me any feedback on the Practical Algebra Course.


    Thanks Again,
    Shawshank
     
  17. Pilot

    Pilot Member

    Hi,
    Practical Algebra was formerly called Technical Mathematics 1.
    The version 3 of the course has been reviewed by ACE in December 2000 and is still valid, it's worth 3 semester hours in Algebra.
    The Ace Transcript data # is: ICS-0134 refer to this code when asking about the course.
    Good luck,
     
  18. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    Re: Formerly Technical Mathematics I

    TCord- didn't mean to imply that you did. Sorry.

    Shawshank- glad to have you here.

    It took several phone calls, but Pilot's information is correct. Call the number he listed and ask for 'Technical Math I'. Interestingly, Penn Foster considers this course 2 sh, so the price is $110 + $20 proctoring fee (although you have to provide your own proctor; I presume the fee is for shipping). This price includes books. ACE recommends 3 sh. If this holds true, it is quite a bargain!

    I sent Excelsior an e-mail to get this all confirmed in writing (thanks Mark!). Will let you know once I've heard back.

    Can anyone point to the Excelsior material that states they accept all ACE recommendations and/or their newer policy of accepting DETC-approved courses?

    Thanks everyone,
    LfH
     
  19. LiveFromHouston

    LiveFromHouston New Member

    Bad news: Excelsior said this course does NOT fulfill the requirement in the business program.

    They said that they will accept it for credit due to Penn Foster's candidacy for regional accreditation; wasn't that withdrawn?

    I have asked them to reconsider based on the ACE recommendation that this course be awarded at 3 sh College Algebra credit.

    I thought that Excelsior accepted all of ACE's recommendations? Is this just myth?
     
  20. Coupe

    Coupe New Member

    This is from the Excelsior website-
    "Credit for Training
    Make the most of training completed through the military, criminal justice programs, and other job settings when the training has been approved by the American Council on Education (ACE), National PONSI, Excelsior College, or another regionally accredited college or university.
    "

    It certainly seems like it should be approved.
     

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