University of London External

Uncle,

"Here I stand; I can no other?"

 

Jawellnofine, everybody's a comedian.

 

What do you think about this info?

I found this info on another site.

IUFS's Accreditation Process: an End in Sight. From 2002 to present IUFS staff have been aggressively working with the Russian Ministry of Education in order to finalize the results of the complex evaluation of the work of IUFS for 1998-2003. This process included continuous contact with 6 different departments of the Ministry of Education and the St. Petersburg, Moscow Department of Education, gathering and processing information as related to various aspects of university life and programs, and compiling appropriate documents for the process of re-licensing, attestation and accreditation.

On April 21, 2003, the Ministry of Education issued an order approving the results of the re-licensing process and granted IUFS a new educational license, which will take the University through April 21, 2008. The Ministry of Education has also granted IUFS a positive statement in regard to the completion of the process of attestation.

IUFS has now moved into the process of accreditation - the third and final stage of the complex evaluation of the University. The Ministry of Education requires that IUFS administrators complete a 90-page document in a software format, which will help the Ministry evaluate whether IUFS meets all of the accreditation standards. This document, along with all of the appropriate documentation, has been re-submitted to the Ministry and is now being reviewed. The final step in the process of accreditation will take place in November, when IUFS's case will be presented to the Ministry of Education Collegium, consisting of presidents of various Russian universities, who will vote on whether IUFS should be granted accreditation.

In Parallel IUFS is in final stages of Professional Accreditation of selected programmers, Professional Accreditation is recognized by Russian Ministry of Education as National Accreditation in Russia.

Final results for Forestry, Engineering and Technology will be posted in very near future.

Can't confirm ir deny if this is acurate.
It aprears very close to statement by RCU
So I'm confused.

 

You can guess what I think about this info, can't you?

What we see here is some unverifiable claims made by the people not particularly known for their honesty. There is no real shortage of DL opportunities or of Russian schools, so I don't see how this particular organization is worth so much attention. I would move on to some more reputable choice.

 

need for outside help with studying

The posts about this Russian school remind me of one of my earlier questions. In theory, you can just do the reading on your own but as a practical matter, do people sign up for classes to help them prepare or do they just wing it on their own?

 

Re: need for outside help with studying

Historically speaking, they've done both. But the people who've done it through a structured programme have tended to do better in terms of degree class awarded.

If you want a recent example, have a look at nosborne48's posts about his LLM, as he's admitted that he is much happier (I do hope that's the right phrasing) with the support provided by Law Tutors Online than he was just trying to do things on his own.

Angela

 

That is nonsense, Imperial O reputation? Anybody in the sciences will recognize Imperial inmediately, even more than LSE, which is known to be Karl Popper's school.

As a proof here are some rankings:

Global rankings

·Times Higher Education Supplement World University Rankings - (November 2004)

1st in Europe and 5th in World for engineering and IT
3rd in Europe and 4th in World for biomedicine
3rd in Europe and 10th in World for science
5th in Europe and 14th in World overall

·Academic Ranking of Top 500 World Universities

- 3rd in Europe; 23rd in World (September 2004)

UK media league tables

·The Times Good University Guide

- 3rd overall (17 May 2004)

·The Sunday Times University Guide -

3rd overall (12 September 2004)

·The Daily Telegraph university league table -

3rd overall (25 June 2003)

·The Guardian University Guide

- 3rd overall (25 May 2004)

·Financial Times UK Universities 2003

- 3rd overall (3 May 2003) –

The Guardian University Guide (discipline specific rankings)

Chemical Engineering 1 Oxford
2 Aston
3 Imperial

Chemistry 1 St Andrews
2 Imperial
3 Oxford

 

And the fact that "anybody in the sciences will recognize Imperial" contradicts my point exactly how? Imperial is not a household name in the United States as are Oxford and Cambridge, nor does it have the widespread reputation here that LSE does. Not a lot of Americans whose work doesn't touch Imperial's have any idea that the place exists.

I'm not talking about specialized knowledge. I'm talking about a general sense of an institution as such. Or to put it another way, LSE has a general "wow" factor among many Americans, the overwhelming majority of whom I'm sure have never heard of the late Mr. Popper.

 

IUFS and the University of London

I don't claim to be an expert in the field of education, but I believe that there is a mutually beneficial relationship between the University of London and IUFS, regardless of what any of you think, or U of L would not be there. And IUFS is providing a service to the citizens of Russia by allowing U of L to operate there.

I look forward to IUFS receiving full Russian accreditation. In fact I can't wait, because I look forward to seeing egg on many of your faces. I am amazed just how many "so called" experts post in the various degree forums. I believe in the final analysis, it doesn't really matter what any of you think or say, it is left up to the real people who make the decisions pertaining to accreditation issues. Go ahead, state your opinion, but don't resort to insults and cleverly worded attempts to manipulate and control the discussion. We can simply agree to disagree and let those people we disagree with believe the way they want to. I am not a shill simply because I don't agree with you. Wouldn't it be a boring world if we all looked and acted alike.

 

I understand your point, but I was reacting to the statement that Imperial has "about zero reputation".

I thought you were referring to academic reputation. I have to recognize that my point of view is skewed since most of my coworkers are either scientist or engineers, and I almost sure everyone knows Imperial, as it is known at MIT, in your town.

If you get a degree from Imperial I am sure the people that would hire you will be aware of the quality of that school, even though it may be unknown to the general public.

 

from Putin to Popper

No, Ray is a shill because he's a serial shiller. Whether Ray agrees or disagrees with anyone is a matter of no importance. That he defames, lies, promotes degree mills (one after another), and trashes this forum here and elsewhere--see his latest post on the IUFS thread and ask yourself if you want to be associated with this sort of thing on degreeinfo--is perhaps a matter of some importance if the reputation of this board matters to you. If not, not.

Now that Freedom House has put Russia on its list of unfree countries again (thanks to Putin), perhaps Russian accreditation can make it into, what, the Liberia of the north? One hopes not. One devoutly hopes not. For the sake of the stellar reputations of real Russian state-run universities, one devoutly hopes and prays not. Sometimes accreditation marks the quality of the school, and sometimes the quality of the school indicates the quality of the accreditation, for better--or for worse.

But this observation is for Lerner and Stanislav, whose questions and deportment are consistent with rational discussion among adults.

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I must admit that I had never heard of Imperial either, but that's hardly a reflection on Imperial, since I am utterly not a scientist and thoroughly ignorant of reputations (that is, of real schools like Imperial) in that field. But for anyone even vaguely educated never to have heard of a Renaissance man like Karl Popper would be a real pity. If you have not, read him! Anyone regardless of field can profit from Open Society and Its Enemies, Conjectures and Refutations, Poverty of Historicism, or any number of his other books.

 

University of London External:
What type of exams do they do? is it all essay based, multiple choice , etc?

Will they grant any credit for CLEP, DANTES?, or for an US accredited degree?

 

University of London External:
What type of exams do they do? is it all essay based, multiple choice , etc?

Will they grant any credit for CLEP, DANTES?, or for an US accredited degree?

 

The Laws program is examined like law programs everywhere in the common law world. Your entire subject grade depends on your performance in a single, closed book, essay exam.

Even the Bar exams of every state contain this kind of question, though all but a handful of states now use a multiple choice section in addition to the traditional essays.

That's why it takes so LONG to get the results!

 

The Laws program is examined like law programs everywhere in the common law world. Your entire subject grade depends on your performance in a single, closed book, essay exam.

Even the Bar exams of every state contain this kind of question, though all but a handful of states now use a multiple choice section in addition to the traditional essays.

That's why it takes so LONG to get the results!

The London LL.B. program DOES allow certain exemptions from the so-called "intermediate subjects". Their prospectus explains the process. I don't recommend taking exemptions, though; the intermediate subjects are fundamental to further study.

 

No, I meant the other degrees, not specifically the law degree.

 

Perharps each exam are different, depending on what programme it is.

For Imperial MBA programme, they mainly consists of long questions. Some of them are essays while some involves calculations.

No Multiple choice as far as I know of in this programme.

Also, there's no credit transfer nor exemption as well... it's rather pityful that one of my classmate, who has a PhD in economics at UCL, has to take the economics course simply because there is no exemption.