The Akamai Mystery

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  1. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    Scroll down to the last post in this thread:

    http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16988

    I seem to remember DLJ telling us that he's from the Dominican Republic and a legal graduate of one of their universities, but I don't recall precisely where I read it.
     
  2. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Can you say "malpractice insurance?"

    Dick Cheney somehow becoming president is among the most frightening things I could imagine. Now, being Dr. Latin Juris's client has inched-up to a place adjacent thereto. The mere thought of it -- especially when I picture it being in some machete-wielding banana republic somewhere -- makes me shudder.
     
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  3. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    I'm guessing that most of us have noticed that his command of the language seems to vary from one post to the next. I had always attributed this to, how can I put it, a fluctuating mental state?
    :rolleyes:
    Jack
     
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I had hypothesized that DLJ is trying to create a new persona on DegreeInfo, perhaps to hide his true identity. He sometimes seems to forget and occasionally slips back into his more normal persona.
     
  5. Dear Dayson;

    Perhaps is the foreign language, nevertheless, I am not asking regarding the Diploma Mill definitions. Everybody can find that definitions.

    The inquiry is in relation to, where in the ODA Rules, appears the power of ODA to use the phases:

    Appears to be;

    Possibly is;

    Maybe is

    Other thing, as everybody knows, in the Administrative process, after the administrative citation, the individual can decide to have or not a legal representative. Then, both sides in the controversy, presents its rock-solid evidence and obtains the testimony from the witness.

    Then, the Administrative Officer or Judge, make a resolution; which may be reviewed by a superior power.

    Now, with this up-to-the-minute language adjustment, where in the ODA Rules are the Phases of appears to be; possibly is and maybe is?

    Where in the Law or in the Rules is the Power of ODA to use the phases of appears to be; possibly is and maybe is?

    In addition, if ODA use an analogous Administrative process previous to tag Akamai as a diploma mill?


    Jack: I put it, a fluctuating mental state?

    Yes, is the Viagra Magic Tricks:D
     
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  6. DesElms

    DesElms New Member

    Earth to DLJ

    What th....?

    Huh? :confused:
     
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  7. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Sounds like he needs to 'bone up' on his ODA law..BOOM BOOM!!!

    Cheers,

    George
     
  8. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    For the meaning of these phrases, I suggest that rather than Oregon statutes and ODA policy, that you research an English dictionary.

    Cheers,
     
  9. To the proprietor of AKAMAI University (Is not a degree Mill)

    I become aware that AKAMAI UNIVERSITY, and high quality, superior and first-rate new-fangled institution of higher education, in the ODA inventory has the classification of degree mill. However, the Virginia International University, as well a new university, no has the degree mill cataloging. This entity has the excellent message of “new institution that appears to be legitimate. Not a diploma mill under Oregon law. Degrees not valid in Oregon owing to lack of accreditation or ODA approval”

    So proprietor, call ODA and ask why the benefits to VIU and why AKAMAI no have that equivalent endorsement?

    Why ODA:confused:
     
  10. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    And speaking of dictionaries, or rather the proper use of language, I'd like to invite Latin to post in his native language. There are a number of degreeinfo members who are either totally bilingual or have at least a substantial command of other languages. Lets see a few posts in Spanish Latin.
    Jack
     
  11. Mohd Ali

    Mohd Ali New Member

    Akamai listed in NCES, US DOE

    Akamai University of Hawaii is promoting heavily in Malaysia recently with advertisement and colourful flyer about their listing in the NCES, US DOE.

    Though this had been discussed in this forum about the NCES and the clarification of US DOE about Akamai status, the university has made full use of their listing though mean nothing to US DOE to attack student in Asia.

    Many students have been misleaded about this listing and believe that the degree granted is somehow valuable and has certain form of recognition. In Asia, listing in any DOE website mean recinized by government and approved by DOE.

    So, please somebody in US do a favour to the student here to stop this misleading promotional approach.
     
  12. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Douglass Capogrossi
    President, Akamai University

    Dear Douglass

    In the past month or two, I've heard from two people in Malaysia referring to a brochure on Akamai being advertised and distributed there, prominently mentioning Akamai's (erroneous) listing on the Dept. of Education list. A posting today on DegreeInfo today suggests that the practice continues:
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    "Akamai University of Hawaii is promoting heavily in Malaysia recently with advertisement and colourful flyer about their listing in the NCES, US DOE. Though this had been discussed in this forum about the NCES and the clarification of US DOE about Akamai status, the university has made full use of their listing though mean nothing to US DOE to attack student in Asia. Many students have been misleaded about this listing and believe that the degree granted is somehow valuable and has certain form of recognition."
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    I suspect that once again, your colleagues or associates in Asia may be acting inappropriately on your behalf.

    Best regards, John
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Akamai appears that it may be a serious attempt at starting up a real school but finds itself on the slippery slope of Diploma Mill Canyon. It's a solid rock slope that is apparently covered with a layer of fine round gravel. Will Akamai survive the fall?
     
  14. Morgan Khanstein

    Morgan Khanstein New Member

    This issue illustrates the tremendous difficulty a new and legitimate university has as it attempts to establish itself. (Unfortunately, in the current climate, every new university begins with the label of being a "diploma mill.") This is an example of why it is important that societies recognize that new, and non-accredited, universities can be of high quality.

    As long we create a slope that can't be climbed, we are putting new IHEs in the position of having to make marketing moves that they probably shouldn't in order to grow and survive.

    Instead, let's embrace the idea that UA schools, such as Akamai - and the former Greenwich, can have high standards (as I outlined elsewhere), and that degrees issued by them are, in certain contexts where licensure is not required, useful.
     
  15. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    It's is unclear what you are talking about Morgan. It is the school that entered the slippery slope when they teamed up with apparent con-men.
     
  16. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Dr. Capogrossi (his Ph.D. is from Cornell) of Akamai just sent me a copy of his letter of great concern that he sent to an agent or representative in Malaysia, demanding to know what is going on.

    Dealing with agents can be a very dangerous thing. Even Heriot-Watt University had serious problems with marketing agents in at least four countries in Europe and Asia. Golden Gate University in San Francisco got in big trouble with its regional accreditor based on things being done in its name in other countries and was, in effect, ordered to run personally all programs operating abroad, rather than using agents.
     
  17. Tom H.

    Tom H. New Member

    Akamai University

    I don't normally visit this forum but have recently been prompted to do so. It seems to me that the burden of proof rests squarely with the "new and legitimate university" to prove that it is providing quality academic instruction at a comparable level to that offered by recognized international institutions. Institutions, like individuals, have to earn credibility. The marketing campaign on behalf of Akamai detracts from whatever credibility it may have accumulated to this point. If you rationalize that a "new school" has to resort to mill-like marketing practices in order to survive financially, guess what ... the "school" is a mill and doesn't deserve anything other than contempt and scorn. (and to be put out of business)

    If Dr. Capogrossi is sincere then he needs to personally take control of the whole marketing campaign. A repeat of this fiasco or a similar mill-like foray in another area (e.g. replacement diplomas)will destroy what little remains of Akamai's credibility.
     
  18. Morgan Khanstein

    Morgan Khanstein New Member

    I would like to withdraw my comment because of the new info presented by Dr. Bear.
     
  19. stevekurdzin

    stevekurdzin New Member

    Akamai does the same thing in Vietnam

    As shown in Akamai website, the school fully authorized his Malaysia Agent, EDS Advance Academy, to perform not only marketing, recruiting but also teaching, grading and other academy activities... Akamai website states:

    "Akamai University honors all approved credits earned through its affiliate college programs worldwide. EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY, through its formal affiliation with Akamai, has been awarded member college status in the University. Therefore, all courses completed under EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY in Asia-Pacific region receive credit award in Akamai University degree programs according to the attached program operations guidelines. In summary, the following EDS?training programs completed under the instruction of ADVANCE ACADEMY, are recognized by and authorized for credit transfer into graduate degree programs at Akamai University"

    I wonder how Akamai can do the quality assurance & quality control if the school grant so broad power to their agent?

    In Vietnam Akamai's sub-agents (I called "sub-agent" because these agents only carry out the marketing function. Malaysia agent co-ordinate alls programs in Vietnam) also so the same thing as the Malaysian does. They tell prospective students that Akamai has been listed on USED website; therefore, it could be deemed as recognized by USED. Licensing by Hawaii is explained that the school has been approved/ recognized by the State of Hawaii. This is the violation of Chapter 446E, Hawaii revised statues. In addition, Akamai's agents mislead students by incorrectly explaining the meaning of "Certificate of Good Standing". As their explaination, this certificate demonstrates the quality of Akamai education program. It's so funny. I came to conclusion that Akamai through their Asia agents is trying to mislead students intentionally. It seems to me that they are a "degree mill" (I am well aware that Akamai is considered as the top unaccredited university in US, but here in Asia they are a mill no more no less).

    These information are what I got when I participated in their MBA class as a prospective student being held in Vietnam last month. I directly talk to Dr.Ben Lee, president of EDS Advance Academy, and heard all things from him. This guy came to Vietnam to direct & co-ordinate all MBA programs.

    Few things about the class: The class has been carried out in a meeting room, hired from an hotel. There are apprx 30 students and one instructors. The instructor briefly made his lecture in two days, students only listen to him, no feedback, no discussion. Finally, an assignment was given to students: 3000 words, completed in 2.5 months. That's all. Submission of the assignment means completion of the course (not so much work to do). I asked some enrolled students that have they ever discussed with the lecture though the Internet. Answers: rarely.

    Dr. Ben Lee, president of EDS, earned his Doctor of University Degree (God save us) degree from Open Commonwealth University, an University established in British Virgin Island, operating from Spain, granting the Bachelor degree by completing of 6 courses. Director of AITC, Vietnam agent, earned her MBA degree from Southern Pacific University, a school was closed by Hawaii. I wonder how Dr. Capograsi could assure the quality if his Asia agents has been educated by such doubtful university? I think, the know well how to make money by providing poor education service.


    "Akamai University honors all approved credits earned through its affiliate college programs worldwide. EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY, through its formal affiliation with Akamai, has been awarded member college status in the University. Therefore, all courses completed under EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY in Asia-Pacific region receive credit award in Akamai University degree programs according to the attached program operations guidelines. In summary, the following EDS?training programs completed under the instruction of ADVANCE ACADEMY, are recognized by and authorized for credit transfer into graduate degree programs at Akamai University"
     
  20. stevekurdzin

    stevekurdzin New Member

    Akamai does the same thing in Vietnam

    As shown in Akamai website, the school fully authorized his Malaysia Agent, EDS Advance Academy, to perform not only marketing, recruiting but also teaching, grading and other academy activities... Akamai website states
    "Akamai University honors all approved credits earned through its affiliate college programs worldwide. EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY, through its formal affiliation with Akamai, has been awarded member college status in the University. Therefore, all courses completed under EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY in Asia-Pacific region receive credit award in Akamai University degree programs according to the attached program operations guidelines. In summary, the following EDS?training programs completed under the instruction of ADVANCE ACADEMY, are recognized by and authorized for credit transfer into graduate degree programs at Akamai University".
    I wonder how Akamai can do the quality assurance & quality control if the school grant so broad power to their agent?

    In Vietnam Akamai's sub-agents (I called "sub-agent" because these agents only carry out the marketing function. Malaysia agent co-ordinate alls programs in Vietnam) also so the same thing as the Malaysian does. They tell prospective students that Akamai has been listed on USED website; therefore, it could be deemed as recognized by USED. Licensing by Hawaii is explained that the school has been approved/ recognized by the State of Hawaii. This is the violation of Chapter 446E, Hawaii revised statues. In addition, Akamai's agents mislead students by incorrectly explaining the meaning of "Certificate of Good Standing". As their explaination, this certificate demonstrates the quality of Akamai education program. It's so funny. I came to conclusion that Akamai through their Asia agents is trying to mislead students intentionally. It seems to me that they are a "degree mill" (I am well aware that Akamai is considered as the top unaccredited university in US, but here in Asia they are a mill no more no less).

    These information are what I got when I participated in their MBA class as a prospective student being held in Vietnam last month. I directly talk to Dr.Ben Lee, president of EDS Advance Academy, and heard all things from him. This guy came to Vietnam to direct & co-ordinate all MBA programs.

    Few things about the class: The class has been carried out in a meeting room, hired from an hotel. There are apprx 30 students and one instructors. The instructor briefly made his lecture in two days, students only listen to him, no feedback, no discussion. Finally, an assignment was given to students: 3000 words, completed in 2.5 months. That's all. Submission of the assignment means completion of the course (not so much work to do). I asked some enrolled students that have they ever discussed with the lecture though the Internet. Answers: rarely.

    Dr. Ben Lee, president of EDS, earned his Doctor of University Degree (God save us) degree from Open Commonwealth University, an University established in British Virgin Island, operating from Spain, granting the Bachelor degree by completing of 6 courses. Director of AITC, Vietnam agent, earned her MBA degree from Southern Pacific University, a school was closed by Hawaii. I wonder how Dr. Capograsi could assure the quality if his Asia agents has been educated by such doubtful university? I think, the know well how to make money by providing poor education service.


    "Akamai University honors all approved credits earned through its affiliate college programs worldwide. EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY, through its formal affiliation with Akamai, has been awarded member college status in the University. Therefore, all courses completed under EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY in Asia-Pacific region receive credit award in Akamai University degree programs according to the attached program operations guidelines. In summary, the following EDS?training programs completed under the instruction of ADVANCE ACADEMY, are recognized by and authorized for credit transfer into graduate degree programs at Akamai University" "Akamai University honors all approved credits earned through its affiliate college programs worldwide. EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY, through its formal affiliation with Akamai, has been awarded member college status in the University. Therefore, all courses completed under EDS ADVANCE ACADEMY in Asia-Pacific region receive credit award in Akamai University degree programs according to the attached program operations guidelines. In summary, the following EDS?training programs completed under the instruction of ADVANCE ACADEMY, are recognized by and authorized for credit transfer into graduate degree programs at Akamai University"
     

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