Breyer State University

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  1. erickelada

    erickelada New Member

    Hello.

    I'd like to know if anyone's ever heard of Breyer State University and if so, is this a diploma mill?

    They say : "the Central States Consortium of Colleges and Schools accredit Breyer State University. Our university underwent a rigorous evaluation process of all applicable standards, and we were found to be in full compliance of the accrediting body's standards for offering a bona fide, quality education. We encourage you to read all of the information about our accreditation, posted on our website. The Accreditation Governing Commission-USA also now accredits us! We are also now licensed by the state of Alabama. "

    Is this legit or what?

    Thank you for your help.

    Eric Kelada.
     
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

  3. tcnixon

    tcnixon Active Member


    Neither of those "accreditors" is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education or CHEA . This makes whatever it is it purports to offer of extremely limited value.


    Tom Nixon
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    A degree from Breyer State will have no value whatsoever, other than possibly tricking people into believing that it's legitimate.
     
  5. galanga

    galanga New Member

    The president of Breyer State is also the director of the organization that contains that first accreditor (CSCCS) you mentioned. That's like hiring the fox to guard the chickens. The second, AGC-USA, includes the participation of Richard J. Hoyer. You might consider doing a Google search about this fellow to see if that influences your opinion about the merits of AGC-USA. In particular, look for news stories written by Steve Orr.

    G
     
  6. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    No.

    The "accreditation" claimed has no meaning academically, and is not recognized by anyone, anywhere.

    Alabama "approval" means nothing academically.

    This is not a "state" university; it is privately held.

    One might argue that it is not a "university," either.
     
  7. italiansupernova

    italiansupernova New Member

    BSU does live up to it's namesake. It is in fact a B.S. University. Search the archives: I personally have scoped this place out. Galanga has done research as well.
     
  8. erickelada

    erickelada New Member

    Thanks

    Thank you all for your replies.

    You just saved me a bunch of money.

    It was too good to be true.

    The search goes on.

    Have a great day.

    Eric Kelada.
     
  9. markbensoussan

    markbensoussan New Member

    Outdated Responses

    I stumbled upon this since I've been doing a bit of research on Breyer State University. I noticed that a couple of the comments are outdated, some way over 10 years ago. Based on my research, I can tell you that the company seems to have changed management and are now registered in Panama. As far as experience, I'm unable to say at this time.
     
  10. Koolcypher

    Koolcypher Member

    A legal university, thats a good joke: :biglaugh::puke::haha:

    As our moderator Ted will put it, "Holy thread necromancy Batman, a 7-year old thread." :banghead: Now, as for Breyer State, if it smells like a duck, walks like a duck, well you get the idea. Oh, and they are still s MILL university, mill I tell you. :eek:k: :shocked:
     
  11. Them being registered in Panama is an automatic red flag. No pun intended to Panama.
     
  12. Ted Heiks

    Ted Heiks Moderator and Distinguished Senior Member

    Darn! You beat me to it!
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Panama is one of the latest havens for sketchy "schools." Panama will collect money for a license and then - there are basically no academic rules. The degrees of such "private universities" do not have the standing of degrees from the University of Panama. In fact, they have no standing at all - there or anywhere else. To be a "mainstream" University here, all activities, teaching etc. has to be done under the supervision of the University of Panama. In these "private" schools, this is not required. Basically, anything goes. The degrees are "legal" - because the schools bought licenses. They are also "worthless."

    As far as Breyer State goes, this is the haven of last resort for that school. It began in Idaho, on an Native Reservation, though neither the owner nor his wife are Native Americans. That was construed by some as an attempt to operate beyond the "white man's law." Maybe so, maybe not - I dunno. Later, the school moved to Alabama, where a State license was purchased. Later, that license was not renewed. Breyer State then returned for a short while to Idaho (not the Reservation) and then surfaced in California, before the new BPPE was convened. It applied for BPPE licensing and was rejected. Hence the move to Panama.

    Other unaccredited schools that have re-surfaced in Panama include the International thingy of Missouri and West Coast University.

    I don't think the "school" is under new management at all. Throughout these moves, the owner has lived in Ohio and has owned or had an interest in more than one of Breyer's unrecognized "accreditors" - the "Central States Consortium" being the first of them. The only other "School" I knew of that the CSC accredited was Canyon College of Calwell Idaho, a school that was legally barred from enrolling students from its home state! I think Canyon College has lately re-surfaced as a non-degree-granting school. I did hear from an expert on "bad schools" that the Central States Consortium may have had a hand in the supposed "accreditation" of one or two spurious overseas "medical schools" that have since been shut down.

    There -- that should do Breyer for ANOTHER 8 years!

    Johann
     
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  14. Psydoc

    Psydoc New Member

    As an aside, when the school was in Alabama it was not allow to register Alabama residents. Rather unsual, right?
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think it was the usual M.O. with that State's licenses. I think the attitude was that the State should collect the licensing fees; the schools were basically buying a business license, not accreditation - or even approval. Quite a few substandard schools set up shop in Alabama while such licenses were available - before the inevitable crackdown. It was not that much different from a license you'd need for a convenience store. If the schools' degrees were deemed not good enough for the "home folks" - not recognized or accredited, therefore not suitable for use in Alabama - then nobody in-state could enrol. The degrees were "legal" but potentially worthless -and the State Authorities knew it. So they protected their own.

    "Pecunia non olet" as (I think) Emperor Vespasian said. (Money doesn't stink.)

    Not much different from what happened with Canyon College in Idaho - one couldn't use its "legal" degrees in Idaho, so Canyon couldn't enrol people from its own state.

    Yes - maybe unusual - but there are other precedents, I'm pretty sure.

    Johann
     
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  16. back2cali

    back2cali New Member

    Breyer State IS a great online distance learning university and i have benefited tremendously from both the education i received and the degree earned.
     
  17. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    From Beyer State's website: "Breyer State University is one of the few colleges that offer online post-graduate degrees."

    One of the few colleges, eh?
     
  18. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    Ok, that is great for you and welcome back.
     
  19. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I believe this post summarizes it all, the is school is a BS University and gives you the right to be a doctor from a BS School that will make you the laughingstock of any place you decide to display your credential.
     
  20. Maxwell_Smart

    Maxwell_Smart Active Member

    Yeah, but that's likely because your employer isn't aware that your degree is from a notorious, unaccredited diploma mill.
     

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