Evaluation of international credit.

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  1. Andrew Maz

    Andrew Maz New Member

    Does anyone have any experience with getting international credit evaluated? I'm especially interested in hearing about any experience with Educational Credential Evaluators, who do the evaluations for Excelsior.
    I managed to complete just over the equivalent of about 60 CH at an Australian university (a real one) 10-15 years ago and am wondering how much of this credit might be approved.
    I've heard one report of someone who only got 9 of about 60 passed by ECE. But that was from a technical college, not a university.
     
  2. etech

    etech New Member

    I think you should be ok if you have University credits (dont quote me on that though). It is different for each case. In my case I lost my $$$ since they were from technical college rather than unveristy. I am now completing those credits again from University. :( but consider other members comments as well.
     
  3. Andrew Maz

    Andrew Maz New Member

    Was the technical college a degree granting institution?
     
  4. etech

    etech New Member

    it was a diploma granting college accredited and recognized by the govt. Now I believe they are offering complete degrees and not just diplomas. Last I read ECE also does not accept some accredited/recognized UK MBA degree and would grant zero credits for it. Do a search here to get info on this topic.
     
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  5. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    7 or 8 years ago, I did the experiment of asking a man with three non-mainstrream credentials to get an evaluation from ten credential evaluation services. (He had some sort of postsecondary credential from Guyana, was a member of the Canadian accountants association, and had the Edinburgh Business School MBA.

    Annoyingly, the reports varied considerably on all three qualifications: the Guyanian one being everything from "high school equivalent" to "Bachelor's equivalent" and the Edinburgh MBA being everything from "Less than a Bachelor's" to "Equivalent to an American regionally accredited MBA."

    ECE was on the low end for each. And despite extensive communication and documentation from Edinburgh (I believe Professor Kennedy was involved in this), they refused even to look at course materials or exams, and declined to change their evaluation.

    World Education Services and International Education Research Foundation were at the higher end, among others.

    The frustrating message from this is that it pays to 'shop around' for credential evaluation: more expensive, but ultimately perhaps worthwhile.
     
  6. John Spies

    John Spies Member

    I recently completed my MBA at Queen Margaret University College. My professional organization accepts degrees for credits within the org. I submitted this and was asked to have my credentials evaluated by ECE. This was about 3 weeks ago and I have not heard from them yet. Should I be worried? Not only would I not get the points, but I may damage my reputation within the field by submitting a 'substandard' degree; or at least in the eyes of ECE.
    Once again, any opinions on what might happen with their evaluation?
     
  7. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    ECE evaluation of UK courses

    I earned my BS degree at Regents College (now Excelsior) in the early 90s. I had UK academic qualifications from the UK and sent them to ECE for evaluation. I complied a letter report that included copies of my certifications, a table listing classroom hours, homework requirement (yes/no) Lab requirement (y/n), final exam score (%), and suggested grade, credit, and level (LD/UD). I also included a partial listing of textbooks used in my UK studies. All the credit I asked to be evaluated was math and engineering.

    I suggested to ECE that my UK work was worth 90 semester units, however ECE stated that some work was not university level* and provide an evaluation of 60 semester units which Regents/Excelsior accepted.

    * I tend to agree with this since I took some of these classes in the 50s and by the 90s they were probably more high school level.
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Ian,

    There maybe a problem with credits earned more than 10 years ego.

    If I'm not mistaken, EC will accept credit that is properly evaluated by their assigned evaluator if credit was earned in the previous 10 years and not more.

    Any one with academic credit that is above 10 years please let us know if it was accepted by EC.

    Thanks

    Lerner
     
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  9. etech

    etech New Member


    But we are talking here about ECE (Education Credential Evaluators) and how they take off the credits and you end up getting less. Whether Excelsior college (EC) would accept older than 10 years credits is a different story.
     
  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Yes,
    You are correct.

    This is a part of the original post

    "I'm especially interested in hearing about any experience with Educational Credential Evaluators, who do the evaluations for Excelsior."

    So if Excelsior has time expiration - restrictions on credit earned in the past then maybe other alternatives may be explored.


    Yes, ECE is very conservative and has high standards.

    In my case WES evaluation worked better for me, but it wasn't for EC.

    leaner
     
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  11. rinri

    rinri New Member

    Standards or best practices

    John, was this study/experiment ever published?

    Did you come across any "best practices" in the world of credit evaluation? Some sort of general industry guidelines that a student could use if planning to take international courses at universities abroad.

    Such guidelines would be all the more important, if the student does not yet know to which credit evaluator or school the courses may eventually be sent for evaluation.

    Regarding the Edinburgh MBA being "everything from 'Less than a Bachelor's' to 'Equivalent to an American regionally accredited MBA.'" while the credit evaluator may accept it as being the latter, the school receiving the transfer credit or degree may still not be as accepting.

    Russell
     

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