Is anyone here familiar with DeVry either on-line or B&M? My wife is currently about 6 classes into her BSTM. When she started, she was quoted a price of $30K for the degree (she had most of her lower divisional classes already through a CC). Apparently, this 30K is only if you take 3 classes a semester. For any working person, you will know this is nearly impossible. With 2 classes a semester, she is studying at least 30 hours per week. After running some calculations, it seems that the $30G degree will cost her $60G (6 semesters long). At 48 years old, I figured the degree would never pay for itself if she goes with her planned retirement age of 62. My question is, how common is this practice? Why would taking the same amount of classes over a longer period of time equal twice the cost? I went to UoP and they charge per unit. Other than possible tuition increases, a degree costs the same whether you take a year or 5 years. (my BSIT cost me around $23K - my MBA will cost me about 14K). This is pretty outrageous - has anyone else had this same experience? What are others out there paying for their BS degrees? Thanks! W.
Can comment on my BS, but my MS cost about 7K from TUI with the military discount. 60K is an outrage.
From http://www.devry.edu/finance_tuition.html - (quote) Campus-based Students Standard tuition is charged to campus-based students enrolled for 14 through 19 credit hours. All students, except those in the Information Technology (IT) program, enrolled for one through 13 credit hours are charged per credit hour. IT tuition is billed at $6,500 per semester. Students enrolled for more than 19 credit hours are charged standard tuition plus the stated per-credit-hour charge for hours over 19. Students repeating coursework are charged additional tuition at DeVry's prevailing tuition rate. Center-based and Online Students Center-based and online students' tuition is charged per credit hour. (end quote) I see where you get the $60k amount. Could your wife go the Online route where tuition is billed by credit hour?
I told her to cut her losses and go to UoP either B&M or Online. Either way, she can get a BSBA for around 30grand. How much is Capella or other on-line colleges?
nope they haven't always been. Back in the early 80's I wanted to attend there but wasn't allowed to because they weren't RA at the time.
I went to DeVry in 1986 and they were accreditied than. Look here - http://www.ncacihe.org/directory/index.php?institution=devry&state=ANY&form_submitted=TRUE&status=historical DeVry Institutes IL historical first accredited in 1981; merged with Keller Graduate School of Management and accredited under the name DeVry University (2/1/02)
I was told by my rents, that they didn't have regional accreditation in texas at the time. Therefore I couldn't go to school at Devry, this was also the fall of 86. So who knows.
I taught one semester at DeVry in the Chicago Metro area. I was not impressed. The Chicago campuses are a very focused for-profit school. A professor was given a week's warning he was teaching a class in an area he knew NOTHING about. So he spent the semester one week ahead of the students - not the model academic situation. I had a DeVry CIS senior working on his capstone project ask me how to connect two PC's together- not a question a senior should be asking. My impression was that as long as the checks cleared the students were "moved along".
LOL.... worse yet, i had a manager at dell that said only blue network cable was cat5. Better yet where all the engineers that didn't know how to install windows. Just gotta love it when folks with 4 year engineering degree's don't know as much about computers as the guy with the 3 year degree from ITT.
<quote snipped for brevity> My experience with DeVry is personally knowing three people who attended, two by the B & M route and one online. All three ended up owing more than what they were originally quoted. One of the B & M students was kicked out, despite an excellent academic record, because he could not come up with the additional $$$$ before the start of the next term. The second B & M student did manage to come up with the additional cash, but without knowing how he would continue since the following term was going to require more. He ended up just getting an associate's degree from DeVry and is currently enrolled elsewhere to finish his bachelor's. His associate's degree from DeVry cost more than most regionally accredited bachelor's degrees. The online student dropped out after being told more $$$$ was going to be required for not going full time while studying by distance. All three had experiences with being told they owed much more than originally quoted, but only told this after enrollment, not before. Because of the experiences of these three people, all of whom I know well and trust, I would not recommend DeVry to anyone. They seem to primarily be a profit-making organization. Kit
Dear Kit, I am not going after you personally or flaming you. I teach at Devry University-Houston. I have had a wonderful experience. I get notification of my classes early( a month in advance). I am well prepared and my students are much more attentive than my community college students. I hope to teach there full time one day. Devry also has wonderful outreach in the community (Look at Devry University-Long Island) and my dean could not be better. As far as the tuition, I have heard it was high, but not as high as what you all have said. My student all have full time jobs and make comfortably more than 45 k a year. If you dont believe me, PM me and I will give you the numbers. Again I hate to quote my A&M professor here but.....In order to make statements, back them up with facts. Heresay might not work in this case. Just my two cents
The best alternate to Devry BS is MBA from Heroit Watt University(might have spelled wrong). Its MBA =RA degree. You dont need a BS degree to join the program..
Also, Devry University is very progressive, they now own Ross University (School of Veterinary Medicine) which is fully accredited by the Ministry of Education, Federation of St. Kitts & Nevis.
Boy I feel Rich here. Could you please supply the information about Ross University. If you could supply either an article or web site, I would appreciate it. Thank you
I have looked through the med and vet school's web site( If it is the one with a New Jersey address) and I cant find anything to support your claim CommCollege. Please supply the necessary information for us to look over. Many thanks
Here is the link you requested. Devry acquires Ross: http://investor.devry.com/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=DV&script=410&layout=0&item_id=414390 This is old news, and a strong indication of Devry's confidence in the system of education, economic stability, and accreditation standards of the Government of the Federation of St. Kitts & Nevis.
http://www.acnp.org/sciweb/journal/Npp080201159/default.htm http://endo.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/144/7/2757 The Government of St. Kitts has over the years attracted partnership not only with Berne and Ross but also major institutions in the USA (Yale, Harvard, Johns Hopkins, etc.) through the St. Kitts Biomedical Research Foundation which is on the cutting edge with respect to endocrinological research and the green monkey.
Dear Tireman4, I don't take your reply as a personal attack or "flame", and can cetainly appreciate your request for back-up facts. Unfortunately, the only way to do that when discussing the experiences of others would be to name those individuals, name the DeVry campuses they attended, and post figures on the financial obligations they were originally quoted as opposed to what they ended up owing. That personal information is theirs to post if they wish, not mine. At least two of those three individuals read these boards so if they wish to post those kinds of facts they are certainly free to do so. However, I don't post personal or indentifying information about others on public discussion forums. If it makes you feel any better, none of the three individuals cited had any complaints about their professors at DeVry. Their problems were with the financial office. All appreciated that their professors actually worked in the fields they taught, and all agree their professors were "tough but fair" when it came to academics. In fact, the first B & M student mentioned (the one kicked out for being on "financial warning") had two of his professors call him at home. They were surprised he was no longer attending since his GPA was 4.00, so they knew he could not have been bounced for an academic warning. When he told them what happened they felt badly about it but could do nothing to help since the professors don't have anything to do with the financial office. Based on the experiences of those three DeVry students I would not personally recommend DeVry to anyone. But the problem, as far as I can tell, seems to be with the financial office and not with the professors. The original poster to this thread seems to be having the same problem with the financial office as the three students I mentioned. (Well to be exact, not him personally but rather his wife.) Kit
