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  1. bullet

    bullet New Member

    CHE PIBE!

    President Benlisha,


    Wow did things become hot on this post. In one of the past posts with this thread, it was actually the very famous Dr. John Bear that said he will look into your school, so this is very good. He has written many books and just maybe your school will make the list, for the better I hope (smiley face).

    Lol. I laugh when you speak of the google search, in deed this does not make anyone an expert.

    This is why don't pay attention to google search where you see Dr. John Bear with his name associated with diploma mills from the american universities.

    Los americanos tienen problemas en cojones con estos "degree mills" y ahora consideran todo lo que se mueve como una fabrica de diplomas.

    I think what happen there was these schools were maybe unaccredited or maybe they were accredited elegible, maybe like your school that is elegible for accreditation with Cameroun.

    Anyway good to see you post here.

    This is a very good forum place to discuss education, of course there are self educated experts here and even some gangs but it is still a wonderful forum to post with.



    It is nice to have you here and it would be wonderful to have many other directors of schools come here so we can "blast them", right amigos!

    Salud!
     
  2. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Re: CHE PIBE!

    No comas mierda, compadre, contrólate.
     
  3. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Hi Bullet:

    Document your invidious "Los americanos..." statement. Put up or shut up.

    I have not blasted Mr Benlisha. I have asked him to substantiate his claims and to quit calling the rest of us racists. I have warned him obliquely that (unwittingly?) copying the behaviour of millists is not a good way to distinguish oneself from them. I understand that he is a Sephardic aristocrat. But even a cat may look at a king.

    If VUST is a startup university with legitimate academic process and documentably progressing toward legitimate accreditation (not mere business license) from Cameroon, then may its tribe increase! If it is a mill may it go to hell.

    Jack's pulling rank--and your anti-US snottiness--do not enhance its credibility and provoke eminently wise expressions of extreme scepticism, coming from posters like the illustrious Gus and Dave and the newbie Kit (welcome aboard, brilliant child, we are graced by your presence).

    Document, document, document--and VUST will then have no better friend than my own part-African and all-people Balkan self.
    But self-pity (and your Latin-American self-righteousness) do not credentials make. Scusati-ma, Bullet, that's just the way it is.

    A revedere,
    Janko preotul
     
  4. bullet

    bullet New Member

    Gus

    Compadre:


    Controlate! Que expresion de tal mal gusto; parces mejicano guey!

    Mire en realidad las preguntas que ustedes hacen son de una categoria tan ridicula. Che, razone che.

    Si ustedes son come pinga de los americanos, pues los felicito; pero no crean que todos se van a arrastrar en el mismo lodasal.

    Que estes bien, Gus!
     
  5. bullet

    bullet New Member

    alka seltzer, si aliva.....ahhhh

    Che, mucho picante en la comida!


    Uncle, you seem to be eating very spicey foods, leave the beef jerky alone.

    Listen, I for one am with you, if the vanguard university is a school that president benlisha says is looking for credit with cameroon, then we can wait to see if they give the school credit or not. Did you not see that the famous Dr. John Bear, has written letters already!

    If the letters come back and it says, look these vanguard peoples did file with us and its under review by the government of cameroon then its not worse than the american universities that are accreditation elegible, right? Claro que yes compadre!

    Of course if the ministry says..............que carajo???? who in the hell is these vanguard university people, ni en su casa lo conocen (not even in their homes they are known) then of course I join you in kicking his "culo".

    but to aks for apologies and all of this other "bologney"; what is this??? More of the americano HIGH AND MIGHTY ATTITUDE??


    Lets show, Benlisha a carrot, then we hit him with "los palos".

    The kit you are praising for such a wonderful post has not done homework................Costa Rica area code is (506) and I see a physical address listed both in cameroun and in costa rica; what I did not see is a listing for a physical campus or traditional education, so what is the "where are the books crap that kit speaks of." No joda.

    The best thing to do is let Dr. Bear ask the damn question and get the answers from Cameroun! Then we plan on how to approach the next questions.

    And of course I am biased with Benlishas and Baabohs school; they are underdogs, carnal.

    This stuff about "google search" and "to many degree offering" and this other stuff.........so what? Are there not trained professionals in latin america? The thing is some are to worry about showing off there britches here......for example did you know that one of the best business schools in all of latin america is the INCAE? Do you know where this school is mainly located? RIGHT, you are right........in costa rica! This school even qualifies for americano student loans........did any of you take the time to ask Benlisha were HE has or will recruited his professors when he start his school?

    Aristocrat, Benlisha? Yes, I got the same impression of the silver spoon in the mouth and that of course rub me a little as well, but I still like them!

    Paciencia, amigo! I trust Dr. Bear and he is on this..............and will report exactly what he is told from the authorities.

    This is what fills me!
     
  6. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Carnal underdogs? This could get interesting.
     
  7. bullet

    bullet New Member

    asi es

    Oxpecker,

    Yes, underdogs. It seems that for certain americanos, only americanos can develop more than one degree program at one time.
     
  8. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    "Elegible" is an interesting word, used here by bullet and on the degreeinformation forum by Mr. Benlisha.

    What does it mean? Readable electronically (e-legible)?
     
  9. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Buna seara Bullet:

    Well, I've learned something on this thread about Latin American arrogance and the kind of stupidity that says that if someone from the US says something it must be wrong.

    "...believe only americanos can develop more than one degree program at one time." What a big lie is that! Whoever said or implied that?

    And, yes, when some putative aristocrat calls me racist by reminding me that Africans are people, too, I do demand an apology not only because I am not a racist but in the name of my African ancestors.

    Maybe if I lived in a country where it's legal to blow up synagogues I'd understand you better, but I'm proud to say that I don't.

    Since you seem to think (sic) that only Latin Americans have any morals or any truth, I'll quit this thread and leave you, in the grito inmortal of Vice-President Cheney, to "go take your political crap to the politics forum." OK, OK, that's not quite what he said.

    Jack, how about you and Mr Baaboh posting together?
    Your freelance friends are not helping your cause.

    A revedere,
    Janko Preotul
     
  10. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    The reason why internet searches are valuable is that they reveal what is being said about institutions and by whom.

    Typically, you find professional organizations and other universities talking about schools. Government agencies list them. Faculty members mention their institutional affiliations. Contractors refer to work they did for the school. Local webpages talk about the university in their community. Newspapers and trade periodicals publish reports. Hospitals speak of their affiliations with it. Scholarly papers and presentations list the affiliation. Industry collaborations are announced, as are awards and grants. Visiting professors, academic exchanges and joint projects are reported.

    This kind of data can usually give us a good idea of what a university is really doing out there and of how it's being received by the academic and professional communities.

    What's more, this kind of response is something that is almost impossible for proprietors of "less-than-wonderfuls" to fake.

    So in the case of Vanguard, the problem is obvious: How can an ambitious new university appear on the scene, complete with medical, dental, pharmacy, architecture, engineering and law schools all up and running and accepting applications, without anything being written about it except on its own websites?
     
  11. Kit

    Kit New Member

    Re: alka seltzer, si aliva.....ahhhh

    Bullet,

    Regarding you comments on Costa Rican area codes:

    You misread the 5th question in the previous post, or perhaps you read more into it than what was there. Here it is again for your perusal:

    5. Your site lists a phone number for your Costa Rica location that includes an area code of 506. Anyone calling that number from the United States or Canada would not reach Costa Rica as 506 is an area code for New Brunswick, Canada. Could you provide a phone number for prospective North American students to reach your location in Costa Rica?

    The country code for Costa Rica is indeed 506. I was aware of this when posting the previous question. However, a country code is not an area code and neither is a city code. The question addresses telephone numbers as dialed from North America.

    To reach another country on the telephone North Americans must first dial an exit code, then a country code, then a city code, and then the phone number. Anyone in Canada or the US who dials either of the Costa Rican numbers listed on VUST's site will not reach Costa Rica but instead will reach someone in New Brunswick, Canada. It is the same with both of the Cameroon phone numbers listed on VSUT's site, except instead callers from Canada or the US will then reach someone in Lakewood, Colorado as 237 is the area code for Lakewood, Colorado.

    If those phone numbers are not in use in New Brunswick Canada or Lakewood Colorado then callers will still not reach Costa Rica or Cameroon. They will simply get a recorded message saying that these numbers are not in service. Why? Because those area codes are already in use in North America. If there are city codes for any of VSUT's phone numbers they need to be posted on the site so that prospective students can be assured of reaching VSUT. A notation regarding exit codes would also be helpful to prospective North American students. (¿Usted piensa que esto es verdad especialmente para los americanos estúpidos, no? ¿Usted cree esto, verdad? Incluso si algunos americanos pueden leer a español.)

    Regarding your comment on books:

    Questions regarding the extent of a university's library are indeed legitimate questions, especially when a university is offering medical and law degrees. You seem to assume "books" always means printed, bound copies with pages that are contained within a building. This is not neccesarily so. "Library" also means electronic books in a searchable database that distance education students may access from the internet. Such libraries are in use by other distance education universities to properly educate their students. Maybe Vanguard University of Science and Technology has such a library? We will have to wait for Mr. Benlisha's anwer.

    Regarding your comment on physical address:

    There is indeed a physical address listed on the VSUT site contact page. The info says this page was changed on September 19, 2004. Today! I am as happy as you to see a physical address for VSUT.


    Regarding the tone of your post:

    You seem to be insulted that people are asking questions about VSUT. There is no reason for you to become insulted. Jack Benlisha asked for legitimate questions in one of his previous posts. He did not ask for questions only from Dr. John Bear, he just asked for legitimate questions. Here is his direct quote from Mr. Benlisha's previous post:

    So you see, now there are questions regarding his university, his faculty, his academic programs, his admissions policies, etc., etc. Not speculations, just questions. Mr. Benlisha has not as yet answered any of these questions but I remain confident he will. After all, these are the kind of questions he requested. :)


    Kit
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 19, 2004
  12. bullet

    bullet New Member

    yes kit

    Kit,

    Estoy de acuerdo, jack debe responder a estas preguntas.

    I agree with you Kit, jack should answer these legitimate questions.
     
  13. ezzz

    ezzz New Member

    sir, any update about VUST?
     
  14. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    It seems that Mr. Benlisha is too busy to answer the questions that have been posed. I'm shocked.
    Mr. Benlisha, I'm flattered :rolleyes: by your request for a copy of my resume. I'm afraid, however, that you could not pay me enough to work for you.
    Jack
     
  15. Kit

    Kit New Member

    Uncle Janko,

    I have been remiss in not thanking you for this most generous welcome. But you were overly generous as I am not brilliant. I used to be extroardinarily brilliant at 13 years old (despite having been born of low-intelligence parents), by 18 this became just vastly superior intelligence, after college and a couple years out of Mom & Dad's place I had sunk to just very smart, at this point it's just skeptical and smart-assed enough to get by, and Mom and Dad are seeming dangerously close to brilliant.

    But thanks for the welcome anyway.

    Kit
     

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