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What terroristic actions have they carried out to earn such an appellation? (assuming that one must carry out terroristic acts to be a terrorist.)

 

It's about human decency and compassion. PETA is a hypocritical organization.

They talk about compassion and decency and yet how compassionate and decent is a billboard, seen by families of Dahmer's victims, saying he liked to eat meat to?

I have belonged to numerous animal rights organizations in my life. I oppose using animals in lab experiments, killing them for fur, wallets, shoes, etc., so I do support animal rights but I do not support or endorse extremism or hypocrisy.

 

I know this is directed to Bruce, but I am going to answer too.

Look here.

 

I personally think that his comment about how he is glad he had his bacon this morning was pretty idiotic, and I thought it was pretty funny how he leaned over and whispered to the PETA protester to calm down.

I know that some of the stunts that PETA pulls are very extrema. However PETA is not a very big organization, mostly made up of volunteers, with a big war to fight. So sometimes they have to take extrema actions to get their point across.

 

It doesn't seem particularly indecent or uncompassionate to me. It doesn't lessen the horror of Dahmer's crimes.

I would think that as a vegetarian you would be more inclined to give PETA the benefit of the doubt.

 

Benefits of doubt don't apply to true civility.

I guess we will just have to agree to disagree, my friend.

 

Has the information on this site been independantly verified?

My family used to be in the pet shop business (in the UK) and the companies we visited had great living conditions for their test animals. As a side these companies used humans to taste the pet food cat and dog because it is humans who buy pet food, not pets.

 

Ian,

I agree with you 100% that there are pet food company's out there that treat the animals they test their pet food on really well and do no harm comes to the animal. However you should also keep in mind that you are not at the lab 24/7, and that it is very easy for the company to hide the bad evidence when they know that guests will be visiting the lab. Just read the story about the board falling on the cat and crushing it to death.

Below I am posting a link to the undercover video that was made at the Iams lab. Warning some of the scenes in this video are very graphic.

http://www.petatv.com/tvpopup/video.asp?video=iams&Player=wm&speed=_med

 

Bo

This one really hits home for me, as I have more dogs and cats than we can handle, but they seem to find us. Anyway, we feed all of our animals AIMS, and I find this disturbing, but ask the same as Ian. Is AIMS more at guilt than the others?

I don't even want to see the video, as I know what it will show, but I do not want to blackball one, when all are guilty. A business will have tragedies, as bsuinesses have human casulaties at times.

You seem knowledgeable on the facts, who do you recommend?

The reason I ask, is that a friend asked me about 3 months ago to be a part of a boycott of a oil company (gas company). I asked why that particular company, that he said becuase we need to make a statement, and since they are all guilty, we need to pick one and show we have a force. That really hit me, I understand their message, but if it was a pick out of the hat, it is wrong.

Lastly, many organizations start well, but get off track, for example, I live on a farm type situation. We were looking at adopting a cat about 4 years ago. I called the SPCA, and was told that any cat that was allowed outside was cruel and would not be considered for adopters. Honestly, we have a door, when the cats want in (about 1/2 the time), they come in, and when they want out, they go out. One is totally inside, one mostly outside, and 2 about 1/2 and 1/2. I think it is cruel to put a cat inside at all times, inless that is their choice, and have an issue with those organizations that think otherwise.

Similarly, when we went to get our newest dog, who was abandon on the side of the road, who we took to the pound for the 10 day holding period, coming out very very sick (and not going in that way), we see a huge poster on the door of the pound, saying "The SPCA says cruelity is letting your cats outside, don't you live inside?" My answer, well, yes, but if I was not allowed outside, I could go crazy, and I am not being cruel to allow my animals outside.

Anyway, I think some may have a good heart, but I want to know of the others in the industry, on the other side, just because the industry does it, does not , make it right, but as a marketing person, I would think there is at least one that prides itself on animal kindness.....

Anyway, I will get ff my soapbox, if you know of what suggestion you would make. I spend about $200 a month on AIMS, which is not a great deal, but enough. Your suggestion is appreciated.

(Also, PM me, if you would like me to take anything to my vet, as there is only one vet in about 50 miles, and I think we could at least get a flyer up).

After taking one too many animals (is there such a thing??) there are other ways to make a difference, and I know we can't take more, but we can make a difference in other ways.

 

They no more have the right to break the law than the protesters at abortion clinics. The difference is that the media will never cut any slack or give positive press to the abortion protesters.

 

Han,

I never let my cat go out, but I do it out of love and to protected it, because I live in Toronto. Anyways check out the links I have posted for you below, I think you will find them helpful.

Bo


http://www.caringconsumer.com/page/petfoodpocket.pdf


http://www.iamscruelty.com/page/IAMS_Expo_Ad_hi.pdf


http://www.iamscruelty.com/page/12IAMSdisplayAW.pdf


PS: I have actually printed out a number of copies of all this
information and taken it to all the vets and pet food stores in my area.

 

Bruce, you are comparing apples and oranges here. First of all PETA protesters never murder humans like abortion protesters do. Which probably is the main cause why they not represented in a very positive way by the media.

Also PETA protesters don't tell adult humans what to do with their bodies. Instead they fight for the right of aminals who's bodies are being miss treated and abused by humans.

 

They don't? Hmmm...

I can live with that.

 

Thank you very much.

 

Certainly not for a lack of trying.

Abortion protesters fight for the rights of babies who are slaughtered to make the lives of their mothers more convenient.

I think I'll side with them versus the people who fight for the rights of chickens.

 

I do think this is an issue of which is the more important cause, between animal rights and abortion, but more of an issue of making sure that the facts are being accurately portrayed.

 

If you think IAMS is bad . . .

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( - Charlton Heston)

 

For Han

Hello Han,
At risk of beginning a thread within a thread, I would suggest you consider feeding your animals human food (fresh food) from the grocery store (only since you asked - I'd never push my opinions on one who didn't ask for alternatives to commercial pet foods!). I'm attaching a file that shows what my dogs eat. I also have cats who eat "fresh food" as well - no veggies, more meat. I'm betting folks likely won't will be interested because - yes - it takes a LOT more time to prepare compared to pouring out of a bag or opening a can, and is a bit more expensive because I don't shop around for better deals on the meat in bulk, but my husband and I don't have human children to nurture and spoil!

There are a LOT of reasons I won't consider using commercial pet food, only one of which is cruelty to animals noted on the IAMS reference in this thread. Most of our reasons are animal health-related. If there is any interest in this way of feeding, I'd suggest joining the Yahoo group "K9Nutrition" for a while to get the basics down. Best of luck!

~Michele

2 rottweilers (7 & 8 yrs old, our pseudo-children from birth)
1 golden/husky mix (11 yr. old rescue)
2 cats - both strays (adult rescues)

Oh yeah - Capella PhD learner & MS graduate ;-)

 

Taken directly from the PETA website http://www.peta.org/feat/petatomato/

<I>"Tomatoes emblazoned with stickers encouraging shoppers to "throw me at a fur-wearer" have been cropping up in produce aisles. The popular plump red vegetable that until now, has been known mainly as a harmless ingredient in spaghetti sauce is stirring up the most controversy in its history since the "Is it a vegetable or a fruit?" flap.

Whether you call them tomatoes or to-mah-toes, these veggies are seeing red over cruelty to animals.

Fur-wearers, be warned—vigilante vegetables are ready to paint the town red. If you still wear fur—despite the fact that animals are bludgeoned, electrocuted, poisoned, gassed, shot and have their necks broken just so you can look old, fat, or really cheap—you’d better be prepared to meet your ‘mater. No mink stole or raccoon wrap is safe from a pulpy projectile that’s gone to seed.</I>

<b>Choose Your Tomato Torpedo!</b>

We recommend the following varieties to give you the most squash for your cash:

<b>Rambo Red</b>
This veteran of the fur wars is guaranteed to generate the highest dry-cleaning bills.
Cherry Bomb
Explodes into a pulpy mess on impact.

<b>The "Terminator"</b>
"I’ll be back"—exactly the body part this juicy number likes to land on.

<b>Beefsteak</b>
A prime favorite in steakhouse cloakrooms

<b>Salad</b>
Best when tossed, of course

<b>Apple</b>
An extra-squishy cultivar packed with shower power.

Don't give me that bull that that PETA is nonviolent and doesn't encourage or participate in violent acts. They are marketing, encouraging, and making money by promoting violence against people who wears furs -- which just happens to be legal at this particular time.

The hypocrisy of liberals knows no bounds.

 

The horror. The horror!