IUFS Legitimacy

Ray,

This info may or may not be accurate.
As Stanislav stated everything comes from there should be
verified - well he states that’s this all lye.

By the way -

I found this info on another site.

IUFS's Accreditation Process: an End in Sight. From 2002 to present IUFS staff have been aggressively working with the Russian Ministry of Education in order to finalize the results of the complex evaluation of the work of IUFS for 1998-2003. This process included continuous contact with 6 different departments of the Ministry of Education and the St. Petersburg, Moscow Department of Education, gathering and processing information as related to various aspects of university life and programs, and compiling appropriate documents for the process of re-licensing, attestation and accreditation.

On April 21, 2003, the Ministry of Education issued an order approving the results of the re-licensing process and granted IUFS a new educational license, which will take the University through April 21, 2008. The Ministry of Education has also granted IUFS a positive statement in regard to the completion of the process of attestation.

IUFS has now moved into the process of accreditation - the third and final stage of the complex evaluation of the University. The Ministry of Education requires that IUFS administrators complete a 90-page document in a software format, which will help the Ministry evaluate whether IUFS meets all of the accreditation standards. This document, along with all of the appropriate documentation, has been re-submitted to the Ministry and is now being reviewed. The final step in the process of accreditation will take place in November, when IUFS's case will be presented to the Ministry of Education Collegium, consisting of presidents of various Russian universities, who will vote on whether IUFS should be granted accreditation.

In Parallel IUFS is in final stages of Professional Accreditation of selected programmers, Professional Accreditation is recognized by Russian Ministry of Education as National Accreditation in Russia.

Final results for Forestry, Engineering and Technology will be posted in very near future.

Can't confirm ir deny if this is acurate.
It aprears very close to statement by RCU
So I'm confused.

 

Oh how I love the pose of naivete! Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray, Ray!
On another website you posted the following froth:

" I happen to lke IUFS and can't see the reason for all the criticism. I have corresponded frequently with their Rector, Professor Dr. Shanti P. Jayasekara and he is a very nice man. He is very dedicated to having a quality institution. This is not a diploma mill I assure you, but I don't know all the laws in Russia regarding the establishment of educational institutions. After all, they conduct classes for the University of London, one of the oldest distance learning institutions in existence. And as stated previously, they have established relationships with other state universities, which is a good thing. In my opinion, their reputation is excellent! Please let us make up an effort to clear up any confusion. If <snip> would kindly research the issue, since he is Russian and post his research it might clear up the matter and dispell Mis Info's posts. Stanslav, who posts on the other site seems to have a personal agenda he is carrying out. "

If you want to clear up confusion, Ray, quit creating it.

You attack this forum. You attack Stanislav who knows more about Russian and Ukrainian higher education in his left big toe than you do in your entire um corpus of knowledge. You ignore all the information posted here over the years, verified, doublechecked, ratified by Russian officials. You tried to buy a quickie mill doctorate from (at least--these you bragged about here) Yorker, Sore Buns, and Kinightsbridge. Apparently the price was wrong on the first two and even Henrik Fyrst Kristensen turned you down flat for an el cheapo "honorary" doctorate based on your well-known achievements, as you yourself admitted. You wanted the doctorate because you were going to go to Iraq right away and you wanted to impress the locals. How was that trip, Ray?

Every bit of unflattering information above is direct from "Reverend" Robert Ray Hill's (PhD Cyberspace's) posts on this here--in his elsewhere frequently reiterated view--stinking rotten website.

Ray, you claim upon the strength of a story of extended illness to have been readmitted to California Coast University after a lapse of many years in your enrolment, and that CCU is graciously letting you pay the tuition rates in force at the time of your previous enrolment there. If you quit shilling for in turn Yorker, Knightsbridge (oops, Henryk wasn't appreciate enough to hand you a doctorate on the cheap), Sore Buns, and now I"U"FS, and if you quit attacking the bona fides of responsible posters (envy is a terrible thing), your studies at Cal Coast might progress more swiftly. I hope you can stand the indignity of being associated with a real school. Just grit your teeth and do the work. Best of luck to you.

 

I see London...

Angela Gilham has kindly demolished the attempt to legitimise I"U"FS by a pretended organic relationship to the University of London in this thread on the forum PhD Cyberspace loves to deride for telling the truth:

http://forums.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=176090#post176090

 

zen comes to whackamole/whackashill

I was looking at an earlier post caption which included the words "duma stuff".

Then I achieved satori.

Q. What's the difference between "duma stuff" and "dumbass stuff"?

A. Mostly B S and rearranged empty space.

 

Re: I see London...

Actually I have done no such thing, and I don't really thank you for claiming that I did.

I merely pointed out that, except in certain named cases, the University of London takes no interest in and provides no oversight of the colleges or universities providing tution for the London External Programme and that it says this on its website.

Angela

 

palinode

I withdraw my thanks entirely and apologise for offering them. It won't happen again, I assure you.

You said:

"IUFS is not teaching any of the three diplomas, it therefore has no formal relationship whatsoever with UoL."

That, among a multitude of other things, is what IUFS claims.
That, among a multitude of other things, is lied about by inveterate shills.

 

Re: Re: I see London...

You also wrote:

IUFS is not teaching any of the three diplomas, it therefore has no formal relationship whatsoever with UoL.

OK, replace Unk's "organic relationship" with your "formal relationship".

You still seem to be saying that IUFS's announcing that it teaches classes for the University of London external programme doesn't imply any endorsement of IUFS by the University of London.

That may be self-evident to you, but it can be confusing to people who don't know how these things work. They may reasonably assume that teaching classes for another university's degree program implies some sort of relationship (whether 'organic' or 'formal') between the two schools.

I think that the University of London would probably be well advised to be more interested in this rather slick pseudo-accreditation dodge.

If you are a degree-mill operator, just take it upon yourself to offer London external programme tutoring (however worthless), announce it on your website, and then bask in the glow of the implied association with and endorsement by a world famous university. Instant (albeit empty) 'credibility'.

Since we know that many mill owners read Degreeinfo regularly, I suspect that we will probably soon be seeing more iffy schools using this London claim in their marketing.

 

Are there 2 IUFS's?

Is this info about a deferent school?

I found this info on another site.

IUFS's Accreditation Process: an End in Sight. From 2002 to present IUFS staff have been aggressively working with the Russian Ministry of Education in order to finalize the results of the complex evaluation of the work of IUFS for 1998-2003. This process included continuous contact with 6 different departments of the Ministry of Education and the St. Petersburg, Moscow Department of Education, gathering and processing information as related to various aspects of university life and programs, and compiling appropriate documents for the process of re-licensing, attestation and accreditation.

On April 21, 2003, the Ministry of Education issued an order approving the results of the re-licensing process and granted IUFS a new educational license, which will take the University through April 21, 2008. The Ministry of Education has also granted IUFS a positive statement in regard to the completion of the process of attestation.

IUFS has now moved into the process of accreditation - the third and final stage of the complex evaluation of the University. The Ministry of Education requires that IUFS administrators complete a 90-page document in a software format, which will help the Ministry evaluate whether IUFS meets all of the accreditation standards. This document, along with all of the appropriate documentation, has been re-submitted to the Ministry and is now being reviewed. The final step in the process of accreditation will take place in November, when IUFS's case will be presented to the Ministry of Education Collegium, consisting of presidents of various Russian universities, who will vote on whether IUFS should be granted accreditation.

In Parallel IUFS is in final stages of Professional Accreditation of selected programmers, Professional Accreditation is recognized by Russian Ministry of Education as National Accreditation in Russia.

Final results for Forestry, Engineering and Technology will be posted in very near future.

Can't confirm or deny if this is acurate.
It aprears very close to statement by RCU
So I'm confused.

 

Final Opinions Regarding IUFS!

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TOS, anyone?

 

Re: Final Opinions Regarding IUFS!

A few more people who acted like Janko, and a few less who acted like you, would certainly be nice.

The pot calling the kettle black if I ever saw it.

It's kind of an "if the shoe fits" sort of thing, in your case, isn't it?

Just about everyone here writes very informally and without giving much thought to perfect spelling or grammar...

...at least I hope-to-god that explains your writing!

But, of couse, that's not really true, is it? And you know it. Few here are more artful in their manner of respectfully disagreeing and/or correcting, generally, than is Janko. As long as the person with whom he's exchanging posts is sincere, not disingenuous, and is clearly not trying to mislead anyone, then Janko's only too happy to agree to disagree and, moreover, to respect his opponent's opinion in spite of itself. It's called "discernment" and "civlility"(foreign concepts to you, I realize) and it requires some sense and recognition of the importance of honoring and living-up to one's obligations under the implied social contract. Just because Janko doesn't suffer fools doesn't mean he thinks everyone but him is one; or that he treats them as such. Only the actual fools get that sort of treatment from him...

...much as you're getting from him -- and me -- right now.

Old enough, I dare say, to have forgotten more than it's likely you'll ever know; and to have learned how to spot shills, trolls and general pond scum of your ilk from ten miles out... and on a three-day drunk, to boot (though I'm not sure if he actually drinks... but my point is nevertheless made).

He's neither, of course...

...though I've long had my doubts about you.

And you dare to criticize someone else's sentence structure.

And where he'd be almost certain to find a freshman-level psychology textbook on the shelf behind the psychatrist's desk in which is described several frightening personality disorders named after you, which use your behavior to illustrate them, or which have your picture next to their definitions.

Isn't it interesting how the trolls and shills and general pond scum around here always somehow end-up circling back to that same, ol', tried-and-true, time-worn, "you obviously have issues" argument whenever they're being summarily pasted and are plumb out of witty retorts.

Ah, yes... the over-the-top personal insult parting comment (with "over the top" and not "personal," in this case, being the operative part of that phrase): Hallmark of the witless, mainstay of the unclever, retreat of the defeated, byword of the untalented, motto of the unskilled, and battlecry of the impotent... the surest sign of all that one is flustered and frustrated and speechless and has more or less lost the rhythm of his footwork. It's a little like watching a meltdown of the sort that finally finished Ross Perot's ill-fated presidential campaign... you know... where everything just kinda' goes into slow motion, like when one witnesses a car accident... and it's such an unbelievable spectacle that, slackjawed and furrowed of brow, one just cannot make oneself look away.

Remember when you said Janko was immature?

You were projecting.

 

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No, I don't drink. Given the totemic signum of beer among Lutherans...this causes no end of trouble.