Annodated Resonses From Warnborough - Monologue 1

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  1. ismo

    ismo New Member

    For the benefit of any genuine students considering a Learning Experience - Warnborough Style, Government Agencies and the Media preparing their questions to put to Messrs Tempest-Mogg and Julian Ng, the following Warnborough responses can be anticipated and remain typical.

    Monologue No. 1

    The Vice-President's responses to Dr Bear's comments, alt.education.distance 09.10.1999

    Warnborough: “We should like to correct the misinformation again perpetuated by Dr. John Bear:

    Dr. Bear implies the title of "Dr" is not correct. Dr. Tempest-Mogg does in fact have an Ed.D from George Washington University in Higher Education Administration (1990). Also, he holds an M.Litt from Oxford University (1980), an M.A. from Essex University (1971), and a B.A. from the University of New South Wales (1969). Dr. Tempest-Mogg was elected as a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts and Commerce in 1994. He has been a Justice of the Peace in the State of New South Wales since 1967. Dr. Tempest-Mogg has impeccable academic qualifications, and is listed in Debrett's Distinguished People of Today.”

    Author: Tempest-Mogg’s academic titles and degrees actually appear correct. As to his other honours and memberships, given his shady business practices and the resulting court cases, their current validity could be questioned.

    “Debrett's People of Today catalogues the biographies of Britain's most distinguished figures. Published annually, it is a wide-ranging study of those Britons and foreign nationals working in Britain whose achievements have raised them to renown as leaders in their fields, listing biographies of peers, clergy, academics, politicians and business people alongside those of men and women from the worlds of the arts, the media, fashion and sport.”

    In which particular fields has Tempest-Mogg excelled? Just wondered, because it certainly is not education. Or, this may be in the same catergory as the knighthoods which, according to Julian Ng are available to anybody who donates 100 pounds to a charity, and he uses to decorate his office/bedroom walls with in Warnborough House??


    Warnborough: “ Dr. Tempest-Mogg does NOT own Warnborough University - it is governed by an elected Council and Senate. It is NOT run from a secretarial service in Ireland, nor has Warnborough ever engaged such a service.”

    Author: Warnborough University Ltd is an Irish registered limited company and as such a profit-making business organisation and not a University even in any virtual sense. He is a major shareholder of Warnborough University Ltd along with two other individuals, is he not? Warnborough’s Council and Senate are ‘honorary’ bodies which do not exist in any conventional sense and do not play any role in the ownership or governance of the setup or its management. So, this is deliberate misinformation from Warnborough’s part.

    Warnborough: “The snide comment about hyphenated names is discriminatory and insulting. Many people throughout the world have hyphenated names, and are no less worthy than anyone else”.

    Author: True, similar comments also came from Australian Parliamentarians when debating Warnborough College, Malaysia. How do these comments make people any less worthy than anybody else? Everybody has right to his opinions. Its is not Tempest-Mogg’s name that makes him less worthy but his actions and the degrees Warnborough he dishes out to the youngsters all over the place may well do.

    Warnborough: “Finally, we take umbrage about racist discrimination and slurs about nationality and ethnic background, and strongly object to any such attack. No person of integrity, or otherwise, should care if a person was American, Australian, Vietnamese or any other nationality. For the record, I am not Vietnamese either by ethnicity or by nationality.”

    Author: Warnborough is well known for accepting anybody’s money for their make-believe university degrees regardless of its colour. However, their earlier online application form specifically asked for the applicants sexual orientation whilst their student handbook devoted several pages on sexual harassment and equality. That was changed in 2001 and now they are only interested in your marital status – publically anyway! Would that be where they draw a line financially and otherwise or is it some form of perversion??

    Warnborough: “Should readers require accurate information about Warnborough University we will be pleased to provide this, and names of current students and alumni who can attest to their learning experience though Warnborough. It is always better to speak to students/alumni for first-hand impressions, rather than rely on prejudices from those who claim
    to be experts in Distance Learning.”

    Author: DegreeInfo, in my experience, provides accurate information about Warnborough University Ltd and, unless readers actually want to be misquided, Warnborough is the last port of call. Selected students who have chosen to study with Warnborough are very unlikely to give a true picture of their Warnborough Learning Experience at their various learning centres, neither will those misled to participating in the experience. In Julian Ng’s own words: “It is always better to speak to students/alumni for first-hand impressions, rather than rely on prejudices from those who claim
    to be experts in Distance Learning.”

    Did they really have an alumni so soon after starting a university from scratch?

    Would we be better asking Baroness Thatcher or Archbishop of Canterbury, both of whom, amongst other prominent international individuals gave their warm blessing to the founding of the scam in the UK in 1997 – allegedly ..

    Watch this space – there’s more where that came from, and it gets better …

    Cheers

    ismo
     
  2. George Brown

    George Brown Active Member

    Well, the 1997 company incorporation papers filed in Ireland clearly state that the only two shareholders/ directors of Warnborough University Pty Limited are Brendan Tempest-Mogg and Julian Ng. Doesn't shareholding/ directorship constitute ownership? Governance has nothing to do with it.

    Cheers,

    George
     
  3. Ismo, what's your beef with Warnborough? You're going to an awful lot of effort here and on your website, but much of it is wasted because you are just posting stuff off this forum or others. Tell us about your own experiences with them, or whatever it was that got you so fired up.
     
  4. ismo

    ismo New Member

    Done that from the start, see Personal Warnborough Experience

    - apart from that, I still get enquiries from students and organisations all over the world who do not know about the previous correspondence, but mainly

    - because its probably the worst scam ever. If you read the post you'll see why.

    Cheers

    ismo
     
  5. The links on that page aren't working. Did you really spend four years at Warnborough working on a PhD?
     
  6. ismo

    ismo New Member

    Working with Warnborough

    No, where did that come from? You may find my Personal Warnborough Experience if you do a keyword search for warnborough. It should be on the first page.

    Althogether I spent less than 12 months with Warnborough, starting as a dissertation/theses mentor as allowed by my then existing British Uni contract of employment, and after taking on a couple of brief teaching assignments in Asia-Pacific, was asked to redesign their MBA and BBA for a recognised accreditation and validation by appropriate British Universities as most foreign universities based in the UK have chosen to do.

    My role in their PhDs was to recommend a pass or failure rather than actual mentoring in most cases.

    I have never been employed by Warnborough but worked with them as a self-employed consultant or 'jack-of-all-trades'.

    Initially I was led to believe that their Oxford based college was still fully operational as a British institution and the uni had ambitious plans such as AMBA accreditation. The DfES confirmed that their uni operations in the UK was according to the Education Reform Act 1988 as an independend foreign institutions.

    Having gradually seen the real picture and realising that there are several other areas in the law book they are violating and have no intention or chance, with their reputation, to get any sort of validation for my courses, I threatened to take my courses and transfer the students elsewhere. After that, they sacked me - as they like to explain it.

    Consequently it turned out that they were not paying my royalties based on a correct number of students and left them owing me a five-figure sum. I still don't have the true number of students or a full payment of the royalties.

    The British government is now investigating into the scam and producing some results. One of the departments asked me to provide evidence for that. I am trying to show that virtually all their publicity is seriously misleading and using the old posts amongst other things, to show that they are lying through their teeth. It is really all the pretence that makes Warnborough so special. The usual degree mills are at least presenting themselves more or less as they are and if they are legal in doing so, there's very little anybody can do about it in the UK until the Education Reform Act 1988 has been up-dated.

    If you want access to the website, please, email your profile to me, stating your relationship with and interest in Warnborough and I'll send you the current url and passwords.

    Warnborough managed to scare one of my ISPs to suspend the original site by threatening them with a legal action - which they wouldn't dare to take in their circumstances - therefore I'll have to take some security measures to protect third party interests - at least for the time being.

    Cheers

    Ismo
     

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