'Under God' Stays In Pledge

Discussion in 'Off-Topic Discussions' started by Mike Albrecht, Jun 14, 2004.

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  1. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    I have a picture of myself with a kid named Nem ( "U" shaped accent mark over the "e" ). Nem, so accented, means "seven" in Vietnamese.
     
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  2. Jeff Hampton

    Jeff Hampton New Member

    Thank God!

    Maybe this will finally show that all the heretics (athiests, agnostics, Hindus, Wiccans, Unitarians, Muslims, people who don't want to publicly proclaim their religion, etc.) are not real Americans.

    What amazes me is that we allow these terrorists to vote. Come on. Shouldn't we require people to recite the pledge before voting?
     
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  3. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    I hope you are being sarcastic. Being god-fearing or religious, or saying a mindlessly the pledge is not a sign of patriotism.

    I find the problem to be with the pressure attached to having to recite the pledge, or stand for the flag. If we are truly better than the Saudi Arabia's or Russia's, then allegance shouldn't be an issue at all. How many times has a teacher repremanded a student who didn't wish to say the pledge? Probably a lot more common than most think. I had a judge almost cited me for contempt for refusing to swear to god or on the bible (I told him that I would swear on the constitution). As a Diest, I don't belive that Mohammad or Jesus were anymore the son's of god than Joe blow at the WalMart store. As an American, I was taught to think on my own and have my own ideas, not cite some pledge like a mindless atomiton.

    Just my two...
     
  4. plumbdog10

    plumbdog10 New Member


    So it would be acceptable to you if we substituted "...under God" for "...under Allah"? If that is not acceptable, it would seem to mean that the word "God" represents a god of a specific religion or system of religions (in this case I think we realize it represents the god of Judasim and Christianity). For the government to establish these words as a national statement is to establish the above mentioned religions as a sort of quasi- national religion, which, in my opinion, is in direct conflict with the 1st Amendment.
     
  5. Han

    Han New Member

    But I do think it opens the door to others to bring te similar case, as they were not able to get into the issues, based on the custody issue, I am pretty confident someone else will bring it to the courts.
     

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