Shill Longevity Index

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  1. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    What you need is some good old trade rum - the Hudson's Bay 36 Overproof (sadly demised) or Newfy Screech.

    My daughter wanted to do Jamaica in a family heritage project at school but was denied because of the blond hair thing.

    I told her to tell the teacher that her ancestors were there first and encouraged multi-ethnic immigration.
     
  2. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Wow! Is your daughter really of Arawak Indian descent? They were there first, but they really did not do anything to “encourage multi-ethnic immigration.” Or did you mean instead that she is of Spanish heritage, as they were the first European inhabitants of Jamaica? Surely you couldn’t be referring to the British, as more than 150 years would pass before the British would defeat the Spanish in 1655.

    Moreover, your choice of words are interesting. I have never heard of the importation of vast numbers of African slaves referred to as "encouraging multi-ethnic immigration.”

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  3. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    My daughter's ancestors kicked Spanish butt in 1655. Jamaica had only a population of 2 - 3,000 mostly Spanish as the Spanish had enslaved most of the native population.

    Essentially the island was unpopulated so it made a better target than Cuba or Hispaniola.

    Admittedly some immigrants, under the British regime, came more willingly than others.
     
  4. Mike Albrecht

    Mike Albrecht New Member

    Thanks Gus, you beat me to it. My Ojibway streak found that a little insenitive too. Their brothers the Cree lost a lot of land in Alberta to the same concept.
     
  5. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Yours is an interesting, albeit flawed, viewpoint Dennis. Disappointed by the absence of gold on the island, Jamaica was of very little significance to the Spanish crown, therefore very little was done to defend it against the British. You conveniently overlooked the fact that the British expedition of 1655 set out to conquer, not Jamaica, but Hispaniola, a venture in which, incidentally, they failed miserably. Taking over Jamaica (as you readily admit a sparsely populated island at the time) as a consolation prize does not merit (historically or in any other sense) being characterized as “kicking Spanish butt.”

    I am quite sure, Dennis, that you are completely oblivious to how insulting your characterizations are. :rolleyes:
     
  6. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    It was just a freakin anecdote - sort of a laxative for the mind.

    The Cree in Alberta is probably not the best example. They did displace other native peoples in their move west subsequent to 1672. Perhaps you want a clarification of the word displace.
     
  7. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    That is why Jamaica made a better target for occupation - nobody was there.
     
  8. Anthony Pina

    Anthony Pina Active Member

    Hey! Not all of us Puerto Ricans are goatheads! ;)

    Tony Piña
    (unfortunately without the "colada")
     
  9. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Right. Which means that your characterization of the British “kicking Spanish butt” is misleading and false, for if anyone got “their butts kicked,” it was the British on Hispaniola. Moreover, the British occupation of Jamaica was, initially, not the walk in the park you make it out to be, as you are forgetting the Maroons…

    Anyway, my kids were never prevented from choosing Jamaica in a family heritage project at school as their mom grew in up Kingston. :D

    However, all this talk made me hungry, so I called my wife and she said she'd make some aki and saltfish for dinner. Irie Mon! :cool:
     
  10. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    But my wife's g-g-g-grandfather left in the 1780s to attend Cambridge and never returned. He was the ne'er do well - became a preacher.

    Perhaps my use of the expression "kicking butt" is causing you difficulty. Substitute the word victory without implying a magnitude - a win.
     
  11. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    I don’t have a problem, Dennis; your characterizations speak for themselves.
     
  12. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    As do yours, but when I run it through a translation program, it comes up blank.

    Some day I have to make it to Jamaica and see some of the old houses, many of which are still standing.

    Many West Indian plantation owners would take their wealth back to England, buy a safe seat in the House of Commons, and live the life of a gentleman.
     
  13. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    To my own shame, my dear Tony! Me never say you was a goathead.

    What I meant was extrapolated from the old proverb "better goat head every day than cow head on Sunday". In other words, goat head is mediocre and cow head is special. So to shift the ground, I was trying to get Police's goat, that's all. In his case, near beer would have been a better metaphor, as I now see, or else separating the millist goat from the esteemed honorable Boriquen sheep (as in your own self).

    Never have I doubted that you are among the strong.

    I don't even drink rum (medical teetotaler).

    So please accept my apologies for any unintended disparagement of your island home. Had it been intended, I think I could have done a better job of it.

    But I do know the difference
    between a Puerto Rican gentleman
    and a
    dim, law-prat, snivelling, repetitive, Bear-defaming, forum-annoying, bacchanal-provoking, on-millist-fora-ranting, Pacific-Western-promoting, time-bomb-in-his-resume-flaunting, miserable-excuse-for-a-rhetorician, sorry-about-my-being-a-troll-reiterating,
    goof.

    (The above, FWIW, is a quadruple rising tricolon. Your distinguished--not to mention my own undistinguished--Latin heritage called forth a burst of Ciceronianism from the old Carpathian. Very best wishes, Janko)
     
  14. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    Bill Huffman: Police, In case you're serious and not just repeating lies that the aed spammers like to repeat, there is a difference between "was" and "is". "Was" means in the past. "Is" (or "are") means in the present. You were lying because you said in the present.

    John: Thanks, Bill. Maybe it is just a language problem.

    Chip: Police has been warned.

    John: No apology yet. I've been reflecting what I would do if, heaven forfend, I was in charge here, or what the sense of the forum is. Perhaps a poll . . .
     
  15. Police

    Police member

    Hello friends, sorry about my English.

    Quote:
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    Originally posted by Janko

    “But I do know the difference
    between a Puerto Rican gentleman
    and adim, law-prat, snivelling, repetitive, Bear-defaming, forum-annoying, bacchanal-provoking, on-millist-fora-ranting, Pacific Western-promoting, time-bomb-in-his-resume-flaunting, miserable-excuse-for-a-rhetorician, sorry-about-my-being-a-troll-reiterating,goof.”:D :D

    Very funny uncle, however, uncle please keeps the thing personal. Say what ever you want against me, no problem. However, please no bad things against my people and the Pretty Island of Puerto Rico.

    Also, is not Porto Rico, change the first o for u. = Puerto Rico.

    Remember, attack me no my people or island.

    Now, please, continue with the description, is good to laugh every day.
     
  16. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Ok, Police, I no say bad tings bot Porto Rico. I use speling van el presidente Teodoro Roosevelt as I sorry noted in earlier sorry post. You are doctorado but can't find footnote? If rum from PR not so good as either your English or rum from Jamaica is no my prolem. You can't read which is sorry prolem with earlier sorry post, in which I claramente distinguish between Puerto Rican gentlemen Tony Piña mi amigo and boring repetitive sorry about my Carpathian shill for Pacific Western which is you, the most negative thing I know bot Puerto Rico, sorry is you. Proverb is from Bahamas, too.

    Oh, yeah. You lie and defame my friend John Bear and expect me to consider you a man of honor? Not even woman of honor. Not even goat of honor. I no attach you people or you pretty island. You doing good job by you sorry lonesome. Take responsibility for your sorry English words, or write in Spanish so our Hispanophone posters can see how good your Pacific Western education really is.
     
  17. Police

    Police member

    Hello friends, sorry about my English.

    Ok, you understand,:eek: that’s great, thanks janko.:D
     
  18. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    No, I don't understand, and don't thank me.

    "Have you no shame, sir? At long last, have you no shame?"
     
  19. Police

    Police member

    Hi friends, sorry regarding my English.

    Ok, no thanks perhaps Gratitude Janko

    !!!!!Gratitude for the affirmation of your understanding Janko!!!!!
     

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