The biggest Hawaii diploma mill in China__Honolulu University ASH

I think Las Vegas Abusement center should be a very suitable place for Amused. Sorry Amusement center!!! If you are jobless in Hawaii please fill in the form in LA AC, I think they can cater for your possition as "Oscar Winner for Joke".

 

Ben and AK47, must I repeat again; I have NO connections or interest in HUASH.

But what does interest me is the fact that you have raised the issue of non-refunds from HU on the basis of HU claiming that you, or many students who claim graduation from HU, have FAKE degrees!

Now I understand what you are meaning by a fake degree is one that has been printed, not by HU, but by some other party. This 'other party' would have to be the representative school of HU that you studied through.

So let's ask the question; which school did you both study through?

And let me ask again; did you receive your diploma from the representative school OR directly from HU?

Answers to these 2 simply questions will then enable us to move along to suggest ways that you may be able to recover your money...

 

Amuse, the more you talk the more likely you are part of HU of Ashsss. How much HU of ASHsss paying you? You should ask the pay and make sure the payment done then only you work for them otherwise you might receive a check that not might not sign by AY.

 

Sorry to see you are still taking this 'you are working for HUASH line'!

Obviously you have no intention of answering my questions, so I have lost interest in finding out just what lies at the bottom of your string of posts.

If you do have a legitimate claim against HU, then you will need to take a more serious and factual line in the pursuit of your refund.

All the best...

 

Amused,
Please answer the following before you get the answer from me:


You bought a set of Window XP software from a Microsoft authorised shop,install in your PC at home,the next day,Bill Gates knock your home door and arrest you of using pirate Window XP software,you show him the receipt from the dealer but Bill Gates say:

"The XP license you bought is fake,because you must buy from me directly,otherwise ,it is fake......you have to go the jail now"


I need your answer!!!!!

 

If the Windows XP software was pirated then Microsoft would not be reponsible if you tried to return the software.

 

Thank you, Bill, for stating the obvious!

And I am getting the distinct feeling that Ben and AK47 may have something to do with the pirating!

 

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Originally posted by ben chong
You bought a set of Window XP software from a Microsoft authorised shop,install in your PC at home,the next day,Bill Gates knock your home door and arrest you of using pirate Window XP software,you show him the receipt from the dealer but Bill Gates say:

"The XP license you bought is fake,because you must buy from me directly,otherwise ,it is fake......you have to go the jail now"
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If the purchase is made from a mircosoft authorized dealer then consumer should get an original copy of the software since the purchase is made from an authorized dealer of Microsoft. Dealer should be punished and not the consumer.

Education is however much different then purchasing a software. Best way would be for the University to let students take the courses again without any tuition fees since after all they are cheated by University's appointed representative.

Peter Chin

 

Perhaps that might be a magnanimous way for Microsoft (or a school) to handle the problem. From a legal perspective though I don't think that it would be required. For example, if someone innocently buys stolen property and the rightful owner then claims their property back. The person that bought the stolen property has no right to the property. That is because the purchase of the stolen property was an illegal contract because the thief couldn't sell something that he doesn't have any right to. It is reasonable to argue that the thief is the proper person that should be punished. It is unreasonable to argue that the victim that had his property stolen should be punished though.

 

There appears to be 3 parties involved:

1. the university
2. the representative
3. the student

In this case, the student appears to have completed his/her degree through the representative.

If we understand what is being said, the university is claiming that the representative, unbeknowns to the student, has issued a fake degree - in other words, the representative has printed the degree diploma.

The university has got into trouble with the authorities because the rep. did not state on their website that the university is unaccredited. The student can get their money back IF they return their degree.

The student tries to return their degree to the university, and the university says: 'Hey, we didn't issue this degree to you! It is a fake!'

That is why I have asked the question to AK47 and Choong. WHERE DID THEY RECEIVE THEIR DIPLOMA FROM? DIRECTLY from the rep. OR DIRECTLY from HU?

If directly from the rep. (and HU has no record of the student being enrolled) then the diploma may be a fake.

If directly from the university, then I would say the university doesn't have a leg to stand on regarding the refund!

 

Amused,
What you said is just what the HU Devil Japppp lawyer ,Gary Shigemura ideas to refuse Chinese students claims,all of that suppose to be confidential,but you know everythings,so,you are certainly representing our dearest Japppp Arthur Yamada(because every Chinese will bless him to go to hell),so it is no point to answer you AT ALL

Anyway,when Hawaii court reopen the case,if Japppp Arthur Yamada dare to lie to the court by denying the student legal claims,this will turn become criminal case,he certainly will go to jail for X # of years,the court certainly has got pen ink/signature specialist to verify the Japppp signature on the diplomas,so,AMUSED,no point to argue with me whether the diplomas received from HU rep. is real or fake,the specialist will tell the court,thanks for your Japppp devil "reminder",I will call more Chinese students to submit for more claims,by that time,JaPPP Gary will make more $$$$$,more Chinese students claims cases means more revenue for this Jappp Gary,am I right,AMUSEGary(HA HA,I also have distint feeling that you are Gary or related),you shall thanking me to bring you such a good harvests for your law firm,I suppose to earn 33% of referral fee,send it to my Hawaii bank account


All the best to both of the Japppp,The hearing shall be closer,just feel free to stand for the trial,Japppppppppp Arthur,you deserve for all of the penities


By the way,When you are in the jail,I guess 3 women will visits you frequently,one is your wife who operate a health food store in Honolulu,another is your Japanese girl friend from the OAHU island,the third one will be from Tokyo,three of them may meet outside of the jail for inter family meeting

 

There appears to be 3 parties involved:

1. the university
2. the representative
3. the student

In this case, the student appears to have completed his/her degree through the representative.

If we understand what is being said, the university is claiming that the representative, unbeknowns to the student, has issued a fake degree - in other words, the representative has printed the degree diploma.

The university has got into trouble with the authorities because the rep. did not state on their website that the university is unaccredited. The student can get their money back IF they return their degree.

The student tries to return their degree to the university, and the university says: 'Hey, we didn't issue this degree to you! It is a fake!'

That is why I have asked the question to AK47 and Choong. WHERE DID THEY RECEIVE THEIR DIPLOMA FROM? DIRECTLY from the rep. OR DIRECTLY from HU?

If directly from the rep. (and HU has no record of the student being enrolled) then the diploma may be a fake.

If directly from the university, then I would say the university doesn't have a leg to stand on regarding the refund!


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Amused

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In my experience of working with UK and US universities in Malaysia, the local partner Instituion or representative acts on University behalf and receives materials from the University including acceptance letters, course materials, transcripts and degrees and then local Institution or representative deliver these to students. Tutorial and academic support is provide by the local centre and as such students have very little or practically no contact with the University.

So its impossible for students to know if the degrees and transcripts are original unless they University can verify it.

Peter Chin

 

Peter Chin,
The Jappp Arthur Yamada are in financial difficulty,so,what he do is to refuse ALL of the Chinese students claims,he know that Hawaii legal system move very slow,what he can do is :to hire a lawyer to deny all claims againist (even though chinese students claims thru Jefferey Brunton of DCCA) HU,he is buying time and figure to move HU as Caribbean Offshore registration(this is what I was told by insider),eventually,if HU is close down by DCCA,he will claim HU is base in Caribbean Offshore


Anyway,every dog has its day,the "day" for Japppp Arthur may not be too far from now,I think it is really no point to discuss any further,I believe the Hawaii court will return the Chinese HU victim a fair answer

Why not we just wait for the answer?

 

Ben, I don't think that anything I have stated is very 'confidential' - it is all I have tried to glean from what you and AK47 have said, and the rumours that I had heard through my own contacts. It appears, however, from your reaction that what I have thought is mainly true. But you are confident about the legitimacy of your degree, so maybe you think I am trying in some way to 'argue' for HU. Far from it!

If you and others have a strong case against HU, then good on you! I wish you all the best in your endevours to see justice done.

 

Ben, In the last paragraph where you make mention of 'Jap Arthur' wife and girlfriends. Is this true, or are you just trying to create some sort of trouble for this man?

If it is true, then it would seem to imply that you have quite an intimate knowledge of 'Arthur', more than what a normal student would know about their school president!