Any New Online DBA?

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  1. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    So I am on the hunt for a quality online DBA. It’s been a bit since I’ve searched and was hopeful others may chime in with any new ones that I may be overlooking? Appreciate it everyone!
     
  2. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  3. life_learner

    life_learner Member

    University of Pittsburgh executive DBA will have the first cohort in Fall 2022.
    West Virginia University will have the first cohort of DBA in accounting in Fall 2022
    Marshall University started a DBA program last Fall
     
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  4. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That's true; I'm happy there. But note that I'm on the ABD track, so I haven't looked at total cost of ownership for someone starting from scratch, and I didn't do coursework there.

    That said, I was happy with the coursework at Cumberlands, and they do have doctoral programs in business. And they offer especially good TCO for someone who has two Master's degrees, as JoshD does, because the second one will transfer in as a whole year's worth of credit.
     
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  5. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Quality DBA is costly.
    - University of Pittsburg's Executive DBA
    - Drexel University's Executive DBA
    - Grenoble Ecole de Management's DBA
    - Pepperdine University's Executive DBA
     
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  6. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Capitol Technology University - DBA in Supply Chain Management (dissertation-only, no programmatic accreditation)
    Jacksonville University - DBA (AACSB, now fully online)
     
  7. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    $94,500.00 to $99,000.00 for tuition, is there an ROI? Does 10-year of adjunct professorship salary able to recoup the cost?
     
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    From here: https://resilienteducator.com/

    According to ZipRecruiter,com, average annual pay for adjunct professors by state varies from $51,077 to $72,907. Compensation can sometimes be calculated on a per-course or hourly basis, ranging from $26 to $95 an hour.

    Salaries also vary by institution type: Typically adjunct faculty earn higher pay in traditional four-year institutions, compared to those who work in community colleges.

    Here is a snapshot of average annual salaries for adjunct faculty:

    * I have no idea why Ziprecruiter's average figures are so much higher - J

    Now you have the figures, TEKMAN - you be the judge. Should be easy, with your degrees. :)
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Here's my take: If all a $99,000 degree does for you is put you to work at an average of $35K a year, it's a catastrophic non-starter.
    You can do better than that with an applied associate's in just about ANYTHING. Or a fork-lift cert.

    "20 years of schoolin' and they put you on the day shift..." Bob Dylan :(
     
  10. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    For undergrad, the rule of thumb I heard was that your degree shouldn't cost more than your starting salary (e.g. $30K undergrad if you expect to start work making $30K/year.) Seems reasonable.
     
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  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - that's a generally accepted standard I've heard lots of times. I've heard it applied to law degrees (JD) as well. In fact, to any and all degrees. With the job market for new law grads being what it is - and law school having become so frighteningly expensive - it must be hard to find any law program within those lines.

    Based on that standard - if a $100K degree gets grads $35K average in their first year of employment - it's either a dud or possibly gets grads better pay in a different job - but are their any different jobs available, that it can lead to? The OP was specifically asking about adjunct professors.
     
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  12. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    My employer will cover $5,000 per year in tuition costs. Right now I am highly considering Liberty University. At $40K with $15K covered, I’ll only be out of pocket $25K.
     
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  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Seeing that price, the cost of TESU's program doesn't seem that bad.
     
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  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    When I worked as a full time adjunct, I used to make around 70K USD but this is working almost 12 hrs a day and no weekends as many schools need very fast grading. It is not a good career option, if you have in your CV online teaching from online schools, all you can get is more online teaching for other online schools so you are in a vicious cycle.

    Canada is a better option for adjuncts due to unions, still the best you can get in Canada is around 100K CAD a year assuming that you are willing to work 10 to 12 hrs a
    day.

    The only nice thing about online teaching is the self employment status. However, you can get a better self employment status if you get a CPA license or health care professional license. The online teaching business is not good in the long term.

    An online DBA from a low tier school, it is not going to lead to a full time teaching career but only online faculty gigs. Employers that are willing to hire CFOs, CEO, etc are not going to search for online DBA graduates.

    The DBA ROI from a low tier is questionable. In particular as I really don't think anyone can take online teaching as a full time career for more than 5 years unless you want to go insane.
     
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  15. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    I teach Accounting and Finance part time for a university in Canada, all the part time faculty in the accounting and finance faculty only has a Masters and a CPA. Some people teach around 8 to 9 classes a year and work as self employed accountants making around 200K.

    An online DBA from an online school or low tier school, might give you a part time faculty position or not, there is no shortage of general management professors but only specialists in fields like accounting, finance, etc.

    A CPA is way cheaper than a DBA from a low tier school. I agree that not anyone is meant to teach finance and accounting but maybe is better to go into something else rather than putting your money and effort in a very risk option.
     
  16. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    If you're settled on Liberty, I'd seriously consider joining a CERT team, the Civil Air Patrol, or the Coast Guard Auxiliary for a 25% discount.
     
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No self-employment for me! The boss is a complete ...um, you know. :mad:
     
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  18. life_learner

    life_learner Member

    Marshall DBA is about $56k and West Virginia DBA in accounting is about $60k. Both are AACSB accredited.
     
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  19. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I’ll look into Marshall. I’m not doing Accounting though so the WV is eh to me. Great for someone wanting Accounting though!

    I have a call with Jacksonville University today to discuss their DBA. If it goes well, it is a contender too but pretty expensive as it is right around $100K.
     
  20. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    if the DBA is from an AACSB accredited school, you might have a decent chance to get a full time professorship that pays at least 90K, You can have decent ROI. If it is not AACSB accredited, I believe the ROI can be negative as you will only count on poorly paid adjunct jobs.
     
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