ASU to offer FREE 15-credit certificate in Global Management & Entrepreneurship

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  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    That's the one. For the initial sign up. Then, you can register for the globinar and you'll get the other email.

    Also, my new least favorite word of all time is "globinar".
     
  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yeah - you wonder if they're talking "globe" or "glob"...
    Globinar - sounds like a new blood-clot medication from a hematologist... :(
     
  3. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    I've signed up for it and also plan to attend the globinar at 6:00 am CST on March 2nd. I hope it is not a whole bunch of hype and will grant some type of benefit even though anything that is free as far as lifelong learning is worth the certificate or diploma regardless of the credit or CEUs earned. I can't pass up the opportunity for free graduate credits though.
     
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  4. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    It would be amazing if they can follow through and give graduate credits. I wonder how they'll be able to assess graduate level work for 100 million people, however. My best guess is that they will have a peer grading system like UoPeople.
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Hmm... That is just about the ONLY thing at UoPeople that sparks any significant number of complaints.
     
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  6. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Maybe it'll be mostly/entirely exams.
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Good idea. 100 million online students writing exams? Some boom years for proctoring outfits! :)
     
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  8. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    ASU uses RPNow for most of its courses. However, its upper-level CS courses appear not to need any proctoring at all.
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Maybe Pearson-Vue centres could handle the testing, along with their many tech qualifications. They're geared to secure testing of high numbers of credential applicants - in 180 countries. Just a thought...
     
  10. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It is, for sure, as we were advised earlier. Francis and Dionne Najafi are the generous people who donated $25 Million to ASU's Thunderbird School of Global Management that got the ball rolling. Pic etc. here:

    https://www.arizonafoothillsmagazine.com/features/az-giving/11300-francis-and-dionne-najafi-donate-25-million-to-asus-thunderbird-school-of-global-management.html

    Cheers (and thanks) to Francis and Dionne Najafi.

    More cheers for the great name of ASU's Management School. Always like to see a beautiful Native American concept used in such an inspiring way! :)
     
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  11. Maniac Craniac

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    There's some cool history there. Thunderbird was a long-standing private university specializing in international business that was purchased by ASU in 2014. It remains its own unit, separate from ASU's Carey School of Business.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There certainly is. Then cheers to the originators of Thunderbird U. - and cheers to ASU for keeping the name.
     
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  13. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Reading between the lines, it sounds like it will follow what Coursera does (at least somewhat). Rather than taking a course and here are your credits so noted on your transcript you are completing, essentially, a MOOC. And for each MOOC you get a badge. And when you get all of the badges then you get the credits.

    So they're probably not doing anything wildly different. Probably just building off of the infrastructure that schools use for MOOCs. But, you know, this whole 100M thing is pretty good marketing (and a great opportunity for a lot of people).
     
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  14. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    Sounds like the courses will be graded more on a pass or fail system if they go this route. You receive graduate credit and a certificate with no GPA.
     
  15. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Could be. And of course this means that the credits would have limited transferability. Within Thunderbird it is no problem. But if anyone is thinking they can take this and parlay it into a Masters elsewhere it may dash those hopes.

    All that said...free credits and a certainly worthwhile credential all on its own.
     
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  16. Maniac Craniac

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    More information in this interview with Yahoo! Finance. They get peel back the curtain a bit on our earlier questions about how the courses will be structured.



    Very interesting, IMO.
     
  17. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'm excited about the course content. I'm hyping it up in my head because I think it will be interesting, thought-provoking and a lot of fun. Also, it's free. Also, it ends in an actual credit-bearing academic certificate. Just imagine me in the middle of my living room, jumping up and down and screaming "I WANT IT! I WANT IT! I WANT!" because... well... yeah. That's exactly what I'm doing. In real life.

    The start date is 5 weeks away, and there's still no more information on registration.
     
  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I'm more into imagining your neighbours hearing you. :) Now that's real fun!
     
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  19. cacoleman1983

    cacoleman1983 Well-Known Member

    The way ASU will make money off this is issuing the graduate credits even though Thunderbird is offering this program for free. The partnership with ASU will allow them on the back end to earn money off of the prior learning assessment of credits from ASU. The program is likely free but I'm sure ASU won't be printing free diplomas from this. This is very similar to the types of arrangements we see with Azteca, UCN, Universidad Isabel I, and other foreign universities in terms of having an accredited university award degrees or credits based off of work done outside of the university's traditional scope through partnerships with outside educational corporations.

    I would still complete it and maybe get the certificate from ASU if the credits are graded. I'm sure it would be a credential one would need to pay a thousand or so for.
     
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  20. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    I haven't seen another school require a portfolio assessment for their own coursework but I haven't really examined the MOOC model closely.

    ASU can monetize it quite well just by enrolling students they otherwise would not have enrolled. Let's say this program sees 500,000 new certificate graduates total. The rest all fall away and they never hit 100M. Of those 500,000, the expenses around whom were covered by a philanthropic gift, it wouldn't really be unreasonable to think that they'll see, let's be very conservative and say 10,000 students stay on for a Masters. That may not sound like a lot, but 10,000 students to a traditional graduate school is a massive number of students. That would be roughly a 50% increase in ASU's graduate enrollment. Nickel and diming people over the certificate may help defer some administrative costs, I suppose, but the money maker is on a 50% increase in enrollment with those students paying the ample price tag for a Masters.

    As for cost...

    There is no way this credential is one you'd pay "a thousand or so" for. Non-credit certificates at more prestigious schools are running north of $2,500. Assuming fully graded, this is a market value of at least $7k. Non-graded, you're still looking at $3 - $5k just based on your next best alternative.
     
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